#270 — What Have We Learned from the Pandemic?

Sam Harris speaks with Nicholas Christakis about the lessons of
the COVID pandemic. They discuss our failures to coordinate an
effective response, the politics surrounding vaccination, vaccine
efficacy, vaccine safety, how to think about scientific
controversies, the epidemiology of excess deaths, transmission
among the vaccinated, natural immunity, selection pressures and
new variants, the failure of institutions, the lab-leak
hypothesis, the efficacy of lockdowns, vaccine mandates,
boosters, what would happen in a worse pandemic, and other
topics.


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