#352 — Hubris & Chaos

Sam Harris speaks with Rory Stewart about the fraying world
order. They discuss the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the
problems with nation building, cultural ignorance, tolerance for
corruption, our catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan, the
role that Islam played in our failures in Afghanistan and Iraq,
conspiracy theories, the influence of social media, cults of
martyrdom, the war in Ukraine, the age of populism, Trump and the
future of NATO, Brexit, the current state of politics,
GiveDirectly, and other topics.


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