Press B 09: Pokemon Memories

Press B to Cancel... evolution! After 8 episodes we get all
poetic about our earliest Pokemon memories, and discuss the
inspiration for our podcast name.





Episode Transcription:
The below is a machine based transcription of this episode. Sorta
like Skynet if it was 2 years old, and wanted a cookie. Take it
with a grain of salt.


Wulff 0:00
This week on presby to cancel, we discussed the evolution of
Pokemon Gotta catch them all. Again


Wulff 0:29
Hello everybody and welcome to presby to cancel I figured eight
episodes deep might be time to jump into a topic reflecting the
podcasts namesake presby to cancel so, with that in mind, we're
going to be talking about Pokemon today to cancel that evolution.
Wait what?


Palsh 0:48
Sorry, I just had to do that I was trying to think something


Wulff 0:50
witty, Ching goo Jayco magic keys make you feel all better?


Palsh 0:55
We ran. Okay, so here's our intro You may continue


Jake 1:03
or be very proud of. So


Wulff 1:06
today's episode, I know I normally do things a little bit more
structured, but today I'm going in a little bit more
freewheeling. So we're going to discuss things a little
differently. But I'd like to start with Pokemon beginning in the
West. So I remember seeing I had kind of gotten into import games
and stuff like that shortly before Pokemon released in the West.
And so I remember seeing Pocket Monsters merge at import stores
and stuff there was a place I used to go called game cave in
Southern California. I don't think it's around anymore, but I I'd
go there once every month or two and I just see all this pocket
monsters crap wall scrolls, stickers, cards, you name it was
there and I was like, What the heck is this and they tried to
explain it to me and I just didn't get it. Bought a year or two
later, it finally released in the West. And I remember seeing a
new story on TV about Topeka, Kansas, changing its name for a day
to Topeka to Kansas. Nintendo, I'm guessing threw a big sack of
money at Topeka, Kansas and said, Hey, we want to change the name
just for a day have a big event there. Kick off the Pokemon North
American events in Topeka and they were like, Yes, please. So
they have people I'm pretty sure they had pretty sure they had
people dressed in Pikachu outfits and they had the, the fleet of
10 Volkswagen beetles done up like Pikachu that said, gotta catch
them all on the side. And from there, they just started sending
those beetles out to everywhere in North America to do the
events. Do any of you recall that at all?


Jake 2:55
No, but I just find out where they didn't do. Topeka, Kansas
because took a piece of Cute little Pokemon.


Wulff 3:02
But I think topi was generation to


Jake 3:05
shows you the extent of my knowledge.


GP 3:08
Actually, I do remember this as somebody who lives about two
hours south from I love that we're saying Topeka. Sorry,
everybody in Kansas says just tipica like it's to a PK, but it's,
it's spelt Topeka, but it's like Quebec or Quebec. It's to be
here. But I love that you say, it's like saying Comanche instead
of Comanche. Anyway, doesn't matter. Gotcha. No, I remember this
and trying to figure out why the heck I should care about it.
Because it got, you know, like you said, national coverage and
all this stuff. It's a big deal. And I just remember, how do you
wanna say it looked and seemed so bizarre? Yeah, it seemed like
not just the people my age were getting into it. But it was these
adults, you know, wondering are not wandering around but stomping
around and, and these these thematic and brightly colored anime
type shirts. And to that point, all I'd ever really seen of like
anime and then that kind of stuff was Dragon Ball. So I'm like,
why are we not having a Dragon Ball Z day? What the hell this
picture? But yeah, so I remember the event from Topeka, but I
just remember being, like, bewildered and confused.


Wulff 4:20
Yeah, I was just I was not into it at all when I had first heard
about it and then I saw this new story. And I was like, and I
lived in Vegas at the time, so it got that far at least. I was
like, What the hell is Pokemon like, why is this such a big deal?
And then I think I had Nintendo a Nintendo Power subscription at
the time. So when my Nintendo Power came in, they started like
really hamming it up with Pokemon and everything. And I was like,
Hmm, okay, I can see. And then I got a little curious and I think
because of the craze, my parents decided to get a copy for both
me and my Brother interestingly enough, they got us both blue.


Palsh 5:04
I was about to ask do they get the same color each? Because that
would be just


Wulff 5:08
yeah. So we yeah we had a we had a house without a few Pokemon
but I remember I was so into that game at the time I played the
crap out I was playing it on Super Gameboy mostly because I I
lived in Vegas I had lived there for a short while didn't really
have any friends so I wasn't wasn't playing it at school. I just
played it at home so I didn't care. I got super into it. I I'm
pretty sure I beat it. Within a couple weeks, like caught new to
everything. Or maybe I missed my chance to catch me too. I think
I wasted my master ball is what happened. Now what was I talking
about?


GP 5:51
You had missed your chance to get to you? Oh, yes,


Wulff 5:54
I I had missed my chance to catch me too because I blew my master
ball and I think zapped or something. And so I was kind of
disappointed and I ended up starting my file over and played
through the game a second time over the next few weeks to finally
catch me to it. That's how into it I was I do need the master
ball to collect to catch him. I don't think you needed it but I
think it was such a slim chance to catch him without it that it
was just a pain in the butt.


Palsh 6:23
Okay, that's fair.


Wulff 6:25
I probably tried 2530 times and failed every time as I now I'm
done. Yeah,


Palsh 6:32
piece of


Jake 6:33
you every time I looked it up the guides always said just save
your master ball from YouTube. You want them


Wulff 6:37
But see, they'd sold me on the birds being the legendary Pokemon.
I kind of thought I needed the master ball for that.


Palsh 6:43
You know, I would have probably done the same. I was


Wulff 6:45
tricked. Anyway, moving on from that. That was my experience with
Gen one. How about you guys?


Jake 6:52
So my Express Pokemon will see I was a pretty cool kid in high
school. I know. I know. Hard to believe but all the cool kids
used to play Magic the Gathering during recess and lunch. So all
my friends play matches the game we played for years. And then I
used to do the occasional tournament. He's one of those guys went
to the local comic book store the coolest place on Earth,
everybody knows. Anyway, after a while, I realized that a lot of
adults stop playing magic and start playing this new game with
colorful, weird, bizarre characters. And I didn't quite
understand it. And one of the mentioned to me was Pokemon. And
then pretty soon within a month, they stopped doing Magic the
Gathering tournaments. They stopped doing Star Wars tournaments.
They didn't do Star Trek anymore. They didn't do miniatures, all
the all the grown men were playing Pokemon the card game, it
sweeps my area. Like I've never seen anything. be such a fad
before. for single lonely middle aged men in conference stores. I
can't believe it.


Palsh 7:50
I just like to say that pokeyman is how Canadians say it just
like how we say merio not Mario.


Jake 7:56
Exactly. It's the Pokemons so my experience was was here about
the franchise from that. And then a friend of mine showed me an
episode the cartoon and kind of went from there. And after the
cartoon I've watched a few episodes cartoon, which we can talk
about later. But from there I tried the video game and actually I
quite hooked on the game, but I didn't play Pokemon until a
couple years after the fad kind of hit. And I was probably
considered too old for the franchise. I was not a kid but I
played the first game. But for an RPG I've always been a fan of
RPG and despite the you know, the aiming at a lower younger
audience, the game is quite good. This is very solid game
challenging and parts collectible hit all right, you know the
edges for you. And it's great fun.


Palsh 8:37
See, I I'm like from nowhere in the middle of nowhere. So we were
always late when it came to getting games like that. So I
remember reading it and magazines Of course. And the show
Actually, I caught first before I actually played the game and I
was like, Okay, I'm not a big anime fan, but this one caught my
attention. I was probably in grade eight going to grade nine.
Maybe I was in grade nine, something like that. So just just
catch my attention. I was like, this is kind of cool. And, of
course, when I watched the show made no sense because it was
never aired in order. So I remember seeing probably the end of
the season first and then like, then I see ash start off, you
know, so I get really confusing. But I remember one guy had the
game and he had both of them. You had one game boy, he had two of
the games, and he had the transfer cable, but he didn't have
another game book. So he gave me I think, read the play. And so
that was my first experience. And I was like, Okay, let's try it.
And I was like, okay, where do I get Pikachu? You don't have pika
choo. I was like, Oh, you know, and so you know, I chose Squirtle
because I was like the water Pokemon Pokemons over the fire ones.
And I just remember, it was really fun, and I wasn't expecting it
to be. So I don't know what the word is like. So straightforward.
Like it felt almost like a beginners RPG I thought my head at
first, but then it had, like, very simple strategies and stuff,
but it was easy for me to catch on to and it was just kind of
addicting. Right, right from the get go. And it's just, I
remember playing it, I don't know how far I got because I didn't
own it. And then, you know, my friends like deleted my game so he
could play it and I was like, but I just remember seeing a meme
about 10 years later, and I'll it shows the intro screen like
when you first start a new game. And it says, no matter what you
do, you'll never be able to experience this the same as your
first time. It was like rip from like, you know, it's supposed to
be like your first time with a significant other, but they
basically didn't, and they dressed it up to make it look like a
Pokemon game and I thought that was hilarious and ever since
then, like the intro to the very first game. I was thought was
really cool because of that. It's just like a very Personal feel
to it. And I'm not even that huge, a Pokemon fan, so I just
thought that was really nice. I thought they had, they couldn't
have nailed it better.


GP 11:10
I growing up had been into like tabletop type games like hero
quest and like x men Mutant Chronicles and all those kind of
ones. And I had it


GP 11:22
here, right.


GP 11:24
I was just slaying Poon, left and right. No, sorry, I shouldn't
say that. I was 12. But I had a friend who had just a ton of
Pokemon cards. And it's time I was living in Missouri. And he
tried to show me the game and explain it to me. And I'd stayed
the night over at his house one night, and I loved it. Not enough
to go out and buy him. I didn't really see the need because my
friend Adam. I loved you know, doing like the deck And you know
it's back when you played with like the marbles or the bubbles or
whatever they're called you know and not just all these things
that I have is completely new and and awesome. And then he of
course went out and he just had all the Pokemon stuff so he ended
up getting the first two Gameboy games Forgive me for not
remembering exactly which colors they were and I played one or
both of them. I don't exactly remember which, but I loved them
and then all of the generation to stuff started happening and I
immediately lost interest. It was almost like Mega Man seven came
out all over again. And I just to me, it was already this big
well thought out thing. And now I've got more that I have to
learn and I just, I honestly hardcore fell off after generation
two and it was kind of the same with pokemon go if we end up
talking about that later, Pogo came out and I loved it until like
Gentoo came out. And then I'm like, Well, that's it for me. But I
that's my memory of it. I loved it.


Palsh 13:06
Yeah, I gotta say I'm the same way. When I played the first one,
I was like, I'm the kind of guy that wanted to go for all all of
them. And I knew I couldn't because you know, there's multiple
playthroughs I knew I'd have to do it all myself because there
was nobody to trade with. I was like, I just couldn't do it. And
then I found out you can do it all over again with the next next
game. I'm like, No, no, no, sorry.


Jake 13:28
You mean I gotta walk bore man.


Wulff 13:32
See, I was I was actually excited about golden silver. When I
when I first learned about it, I was I was on board. But then a
friend of mine got both of them. And he played through one of
them. And then while he was playing through one, he was like, you
can borrow the other one for a while, if you will. And I was
like, all right, so I bought it for about a week or two. I tried
playing it for a little while, and I got so annoyed with the fact
that not only was it across different versions, but now The
Pokemon only spawned at certain times of day. And under certain
weather conditions, I guess the game had weather. I don't
remember if that's if that was implemented in that one yet. But
even just the morning, daytime and nighttime, completely threw me
I was like, dude, I have other things to do throughout the day, I
can't be expected to play Pokemon to try and catch a specific one
at a certain time. I'm not going to fire the game up at three
different times in the day to try and catch a certain thing or
see if something different appears like it was just outside of
the realm of reality for me, being a high schooler. It's like
Okay, first off, morning and afternoon. They're just not going to
happen.


Jake 14:46
Yeah, I used to work night shifts. So try and catch Pokemon the
daytime muscles be sleeping. No, thank you.


Palsh 14:51
I think that's one of those things that would be really good in
theory more than execution. Like if they had like an end game
clock. Maybe


Wulff 15:01
Yeah, I thought it was a great idea. But it was not practical


GP 15:05
but right. And the reason they would never do that, like with an
in game clock, and we've kind of talked about this before Simon's
quest, and so I'll leave that there.


Palsh 15:16
Now all of a sudden, we need Pokemon Gold and Silver redacted.


GP 15:19
Oh, yes, that'll play.


Jake 15:21
Well, okay, I got a question then. So if Pokemon were available
during night and day time, Pokemon, generally is targeted
children. Kids have to sleep at night. So does that kind of skew
the game to either keeping kids out of bed or kind of doing a non
to adult surveillance series? It's kinda interesting.


Wulff 15:41
I think Yeah, I'm not sure I believe the timing on it was from
something like 5am to 11am was considered morning. And then 11 to
six or seven was day and then after that was night Okay, was


Palsh 16:00
this like based on your console's timezone? Like, how does it
work on


Wulff 16:04
your cartridge actually had an internal battery that maintained
the time of day? Okay?


GP 16:10
Which one? Which game was the dinnertime Pokemon? Cuz that one
would be okay.


Palsh 16:17
I just send it to my friends on the West Coast Hey, hook me up.


Wulff 16:21
So I I did get into the card game quite a bit as Jake touched on
earlier, I had some friends who played magic but I didn't have
any magic cards. And I had some other friends who liked magic,
but they also didn't have magic cards. And we all kind of felt
like well, it's a little late to jump on the magic train at this
point. Everybody's got these badass decks, we can't really keep
up. So let's try Pokemon. It's got one set out right now there's
150 cards won't be that hard to start getting into Fred right off
the bat. So we did that. And I do believe at one point I actually
collected the entire first set and then Pretty much the moment I
did it, I was like all right, well now I don't want to have all
of these anymore I'm going to start trading them to get the best
deck I can make. So away my charas are away with my Venus or I
started making other decks and I actually created a deck that was
really overpowered that was just water type it was basically
blast toys and gear it was to just own everything. We ended up
spending so much time playing Pokemon and we had friends who
wanted to join in to start playing with us that we altered the
rule set at it at a point in time to where we figured out
analogues for everything to where it could be played like magic.


Palsh 17:42
Oh, nice.


Wulff 17:46
That's That's how similar they were is that we figured out a way
to wear anything like if the rule said one thing in Pokemon. You
change it to match another rule in Magic the Gathering and you're
set. See wipe off the zero On the HP and you've got it covered.


Palsh 18:02
I like that because I didn't touch the card game so I could have
just went straight into that and played.


Wulff 18:07
Yeah, it was it was pretty wild that we did that. Some of our
friends were like, Well why are you doing that? Or like, I don't
know, we just we played so much Pokemon. Now we want to try it as
magic.


Jake 18:17
You could just by magic, you know?


Wulff 18:21
Evil we already had the Pokemon cards.


Jake 18:23
damn kids


Palsh 18:26
get off my lawn.


Wulff 18:27
Plus that friend and I had art class together and we never did
the actual assignments in that class. So


Palsh 18:35
we just blew all that time playing Pokemon or turning it into
magic. Were you the kids that were making your own magic cards
and Pokemon cards?


Wulff 18:43
No, no, no, that was another friend of mine.


Palsh 18:46
Oh man. I've never tried to no good with Photoshop now so I can't
even do that to this day.


Wulff 18:51
Oh, no, no, he drew them.


Palsh 18:53
Oh, wow. Okay.


Wulff 18:56
Anyway, um, so yeah, from the Gen one that's kind of where that
stood for me. I don't think I touched so I don't think I touched
the franchise again until it hit GPA. And even then it wasn't the
first generation that hit GPA was when they remade red and blue
as Leaf Green and fire red. I was like I haven't been into it for
a while I haven't been able to but since this is a remake, maybe
it'll be able to recapture that that I have been missing with the
previous games. And I jumped into it. It helped me for a while I
think about 3540 hours and then it lost me again. I never beat
it.


Palsh 19:35
That's good. That's the intro to like an Elder Scrolls game right
there.


Wulff 19:39
All right. 3540 hours is nothing to sneeze at for holding you But
yeah, pretty sure. I mean, I played through 80 hours of the
original blue the first time and then probably another 40 hours
to get to the everything the second time so


Palsh 19:53
respect, I played the Sapphire one on Gameboy Advance because my
friend I'll never forget Get this this is what got me into it
again because I didn't touch it again like after like after you
said, you know just kind of dropped off like with GP you know,
you got to do this all over again now. So I'm minding my own
business working. I was working at a gas station I was probably
18 maybe 19 my friend came down just to visit me at work and like
I'm working in the shack like it's literally smaller than a sheet
of plywood is the shack that I was working in. And my friend came
in so there's barely enough room for both of us stand up and he
takes his pocket takes his thing and it was pocket and I thought
it was like a makeup kit and I was like you bought makeup. He's
like Nah, man. scam boy. I was like what so he had the Gameboy
Advance SP and I never even heard of it. And what is it he goes
game is the advanced is the Gameboy Advance SP. I was like, okay,
and he opens up his I got Pokemon. I goes really? And he goes,
Yeah, they made new one. So he had Ruby in there and he let me
play it. He basically brought it down and immediately gave it to
me and let me play And just like pick up and I was just
collecting stuff for him and I was playing it for like 40 minutes
at work, you know, I take a stop to run out and serve a customer
and come back and I was playing the game. And I instantly was
like, This is amazing. This is amazing. So, but I didn't have an
sp right I just had the old school Gameboy that you need to be
under a fluorescent light to play. And so he said, You know what,
how about I get, I get the original one and you can get one and
we'll play I was like, okay, cool, because you know, we could
play together that way. And so we ended up ordering red for him
because he had Ruby and I got blue. We're both playing it That
was really mad because I had to play out in the basement in my
house under fluorescent light while he was in my room, in like
hanging down like in the couch that I had in my room. And so the
first thing I did after I went on, I went to go to school, I went
to Walmart bought an sp bought a carrying case, but Sapphire and
started playing incessantly until Christmas. And then I came back
and absolutely wrecked him because he stopped playing a month
after I left. Wow. So I felt like a king and I still do to this
day. So if you're listening thanks for we have an up buddy.


Wulff 22:13
So Jake and JP Did either of you touch anything else from Gameboy
or gameboy advance?


GP 22:20
No, not so much I. Honestly, my exposure after that really has
been from Twitch and from watching other streamers who have that
deep rooted devotion to the franchise, which I do admire. But
it's one of those franchises for me now, where I get a little bit
of nostalgia for the old stuff. I enjoy watching the new stuff,
but I don't know that I'll pick it up again.


Wulff 22:49
Yeah, I'm kind of on the fence about some of that. I don't think
I touched it again until Diamond and Pearl for the DS. And that
one held me even less than Leaf Green and fire red. So I kind of
learned Lesson and I haven't bought another one since now, when
go released Of course, it was free to play. I had a smartphone.
My wife had a smartphone so we were like sure let's give it a
shot. So we downloaded it and played the crap out of it for about
two weeks. Were like our phones were just never ending we plugged
in


Palsh 23:24
yeah I invested in those cigarette lighter chargers two weeks
from now I'm a millionaire because of that.


Wulff 23:34
Oh invested it No we bought some that's what I mean by invested
in chargers we we just bought it


Jake 23:41
I can retire on us cables and car chargers. I'd be rich by now.
But for me, I I also work I worship the Gameboy Advance SP I love
that system. It's one of my all time favorite system especially
very handheld. I think it's King and what kind of sold me When I
first saw the commercial and advertisements for fire read, and
just that wave install Joe, you know, I had read, I put the hell
into that game. Sure. And then you know when the game starts up,
and you see ash first leaving town and that hero rock soundtrack
kicks in. It just nails me it just hooks me right in. I love the
hell it if I read, but then after that after I and I played that,
I mean dozens if not hundreds of hours. But after that
generation, I kind of fell off and I didn't touch it for years.
And it really wasn't until which McCall it was new Gameboy called
Gameboy 3ds


Palsh 24:36
the 3ds watch mycologist chocolate,


Jake 24:39
right, it's not a Gameboy. Hopefully, if you pretended really
hard with the power of imagination, it could be the 3ds I end up
getting 3ds and that of course every system has Pokemon games and
I played Sun and Moon. I think I played the moon version. And I
enjoyed it. I love how they took the game into 3d, a little bit
of the models. They kind of I mean, they always alter the formula
from generation to generation. But for sun and moon that kind of
moved away from the idea of going to various gyms to battling Gym
Leaders instead of this kind of weird Pacific Island you know
quest fighting looking for these let these special Pokemon to
learn from them. It was kind of a weird take on it. I didn't
quite get into it. So I actually don't ever finish moon I got a
couple hours into it and kind of give up.


GP 25:24
And at this point, it's not that it's saturated. But he really
you guys talk about like, Pearl and Sapphire and, and I just, I
don't know what the differences are anymore. I think I would be
tempted if I ever got like a super Gameboy. I think I would be
tempted to find the the original two and replan. But aside from
that and Pokemon Go like you know werewolf was talking about
earlier a bit night we put in so many miles with the kiddos just
wandering around Wichita, and we even we would go and take over
Jim's Like actually we had one in Topeka to bring things full
circle there for a little while Topeka and so I really did love
polka when it first came out and again it's just the the de
generation to drop down like man do I hope they do what they did
with wow classic World of Warcraft. Just bring back g one
everything and I'll be happy I'll go back through it.


Jake 26:24
Well the fire fire red is is the perfect way to experience the
first generation Pokemon again it's the same game just remastered
it just looks better sounds better, but it's the same gameplay
same story if you're into that there was there a story


Wulff 26:39
Yeah, I think it added an island that had Pokemon from other
generations like selected Pokemon, but


GP 26:47
well that I can do pretty much it


Palsh 26:48
Yeah, I would check that out. Like I said, I love the game when
it first came out on Gameboy but one thing now going back to it
and watching somebody else play it or playing it myself is the
audio and it's just because mainly because Because of the sound
is you know, so limited on Gameboy but the low health warning. I
remember one time it gave me a headache to the point where I got
a migraine. So now I just cringe when I hear. So I if I ever play
it again, I'm just going to go for five red or Leaf Green.


Wulff 27:17
Yeah, it's that sound kidding. Great. A. That is one thing video
games have from any era, when they have that you're almost gonna
die beep it just starts to get on your nerves. I don't know why
that's a thing. Like I get it. If the game is really in your face
with a lot of action and stuff. And it's like beeps delay, you
know, Zelda is not that fast paced game. And they just throw
those beeps at you until you get enough hearts. Pokemon is the
same way you're in a turn based combat you all that's on screen
is your Pokemon and health bars. You know you're dying.


Jake 28:00
The top 10 worst sounds and video games i'd agree that the
Pokemon death sound is probably up there linked to the past is
probably number one but Pokemon death is up there.


Palsh 28:10
I'll put it that number one it seriously it like wearable says it
greats and it's just I think it's just because it's ingrained in
my head now at this point where I had that one one experience I'm
just like, oh no.


Jake 28:23
What about the Pokemon sound effects themselves? Do you find
those charming or just annoying? I thought


Palsh 28:29
actually it was pretty impressive to go from watching the show,
you know where they all basically say their own name was how the
hell they make noises. But then when you actually play the
Gameboy game, the original ones and you know Jigglypuff makes the
same music that Do you know, it? They they kept true to that and
I think even with the limited audio hardware they had, it was
really impressive.


Wulff 28:58
At least with some Pokemon it didn't Seemed like the they were
trying to make it almost sound like they they were at least
inflecting their Japanese names because a lot of them didn't have
the same name in the US like bigger two and right you pretty much
it least from Gen one a lot of them had very different names
aside from that.


Palsh 29:17
Anything noteworthy this


Wulff 29:21
I think Squirtle was zinna Gamay oh wow yeah rolls off the
tongue.


GP 29:25
Yeah, I'm not hearing the difference my brother


Wulff 29:27
had a my brother had a toy that he picked up at some toy store in
Florida at one point I guess it was an important because all he
said was like he hit the button and he goes and Danny You know,
he was saying his Japanese name he wasn't saying the western
name.


Jake 29:44
My favorite Pokemon is trash bag. He balls to the trash fire.


Wulff 29:51
Some Pokemon are just horrifying, like drif Loon. I don't know if
you guys know of drift or not. I don't remember what generation
It came from but it's a Pokemon that looks like a balloon. And
what it does is it hangs out near children to try and coax them
into grabbing this like going and chasing it down because oh boy,
cute, pretty balloon. I must have a balloon. I'm a small child,
and it'll grab their arm and steal them away.


Palsh 30:20
Wow, that's like,


Wulff 30:21
it just takes the children away. It's like Billy's balloon from
what is that guy's name? Don Hertzfeld with all the little
balloons taking the kids up into the sky and dropping them.


GP 30:37
horror movies are you guys? Well, I'm sitting here thinking about
penny. Well,


Wulff 30:40
dude, this is a cartoon. Okay. Little tangent here. If you guys
remember the Pop Tarts commercials with the really weird people,
like the weird looking handwriting people were they were like
chasing the Pop Tarts duranium. Those were done Hertzfeld
animations for pop tarts. So Billy's balloon was an independent
piece he did years before that, where it didn't have to be market
friendly. It just exists.


Palsh 31:11
Just exists.


GP 31:13
Well, I have to chime in real quick for two things. One because I
just remembered, and two is a callback to a conversation a moment
ago. I completely forgot about this until just now. Pokemon Snap.
I love that game. Still love that game. That game is rad. You
guys can find me. I don't know if that game is popular or if
everybody hates it, but I fucking love it. That's a great game.
Okay. Wait, what?


Wulff 31:37
It's think snap is pretty well received.


GP 31:40
Okay, cool. And the other one. The other comment I have to get in
here was about the most hated beeping noise in video games. And I
would like to point out the soundtrack to 1942 because that
doesn't just be Pichu when you're about to die. That's just the
soundtrack.


Jake 32:00
You know the real speed runs 1942 you have to blur the soundtrack
otherwise cheating


Wulff 32:04
oh my god have real speed run is to beat it in 1941


GP 32:09
that is some some Marty McFly stuff that I'm not prepared for.
That's okay, so yeah, that was my two cents. Pokemon Snap THUMBS
UP 1942 shit soundtrack


Jake 32:23
when you guys mentioned like badly named Pokemon like Drake foon
the one that stands out for me and ash, he's a favorite of mine
in Pokemon moon. It's me muku. And it's let me just read the
descriptions from Sun and Moon just so you have an appreciation
for why like this one. Its actual appearance is unknown. A
scholar who saw what was under its reg was overwhelmed by terror
and died from the shock.


Palsh 32:46
What


Jake 32:46
after going through all the effort of disguising itself, its neck
was broken. whatever is inside is probably unharmed, but it's
still feeling sad. Wow. It's literally a Pikachu. It's a rag on a
stick With a crudely drawn Pikachu face in ears it's hilarious
Pokemon as you can tell if it's a description What is this thing
called? Me Miku it's just it's just hilarious I it's sad and
disturbed but I love the Pokemon origin stories are terrible like
they're frightening for kids game.


Wulff 33:15
One Which one? The mimic you? Okay, my first


Jake 33:19
sudden moon by a Maven in an earlier game.


Wulff 33:22
Yeah That thing is nightmare fuel.


Jake 33:25
I love it though, because it can take a free hit and then it's
disguised goes away, and it's basically invisible to ghost
Pokemon, but it gets that free hit no matter what. So it's a
fantastic Pokemon. It's my favorite.


GP 33:35
It looks like one of those yarn doll versions of a Pokemon from
like little big world or whatever it was. Oh, sackboy Yeah, yeah.


Wulff 33:45
Little Big, Little Big Planet. Thank you. sackboy was the main
character.


GP 33:49
Okay, I thought maybe it was a translation difference between the
lower 48 in Canada.


Palsh 33:58
There's a metric equivalent in there somewhere. Yeah, sure, sure,
sure.


GP 34:02
Yeah, so I at some point, I do feel like it's not that they
haven't kept trying when it comes to the naming and designs of
some of the late Gen Pokemons. But they have kind of become
Forgive me for this the equivalent of like, Stephen King novel
plots. It's like are you really trying right now? Is This Really?
Is this really part of what you're What were you just joking?
Like that's how that's where it's at. for me. It's like how, how
many Pokemon are there as of September 2019. Something like 800
I'm sorry, I had a stroke. How many


GP 34:40
800 807


GP 34:45
I can barely keep up with 151 that's all I'm saying.


Palsh 34:49
Yeah, same


Jake 34:50
Okay, Pokemon wrap. Let's go 123 anybody?


Wulff 34:56
Okay, man, Pokemon GO


GP 34:59
ninja. Ninja rap. Yeah, I think


Wulff 35:05
I just couldn't remember the Pokemon rap. So that's where I went.


Palsh 35:08
Slow po YouTube dedeker route aerodactyl. That's


GP 35:13
right. We got we're going to have to pay some money. No polish.


Palsh 35:17
Yeah. Okay. Let's go make instead let's go make a toe mimic you
instead of Topeka, choo. Oh,


Wulff 35:27
speaking of Topeka to you. They they actually did it again. Last
year and 28th anniversary.


Jake 35:37
Oh God, they did it again. Same city.


Wulff 35:39
Yes. Same city for the 20 year anniversary of it. They did it
again for a day. Okay. thought that was interesting, but


GP 35:48
that speaks a lot to the mentality of Kansas. Here's what I mean
by that. Topeka has to be come to peek at you. There's a place
here that is called Hutchinson better now. North of where I live,
and that is widely considered as Smallville what Smallville from
the Superman mythos would be if it were real. And so where I'm
going with this is the idea the ideology for Kansas tourism is,
Hey, come here and we'll pretend it's somewhere else.


Jake 36:22
It's like trying to bring back the rim sunglasses. They're
terrible idea and tacky in the 80s to bring him back now in 2019
is just pathetic.


Jake 36:32
Is that a thing? I've seen some people were in I'm in my city.
Every every 10 years yeah,


Palsh 36:37
that they Yes. You see a trend. Come back.


GP 36:40
You say that. But the matrix is coming back. So that's cool. So
it's hit or miss.


Palsh 36:45
But yeah, never went away.


GP 36:47
Yeah, that's if you come into Kansas ever. The state line sign
says, Welcome to Kansas. We're sorry.


Palsh 36:57
It's the Canada of the United States.


Wulff 37:01
So, moving back on to the Pokemon I did actually get to try let's
go recently Oh yeah, my kid got it a while back my brother
actually got him the, the the poker ball plus. So we started
playing that a while back and he he loves it he has a blast with
it because he gets to pretend he's a Pokemon trainer throwing the
ball and catching the Pokemon. It's a blast, right? And when we
fired it up, it said that there was a gift inside the poker ball.
And when it told us that the poker ball made one of the sounds
that you know one of the Gameboy Pokemon sounds from way back
when and I didn't know what Pokemon It was. It was like I spent
ages I don't know, I don't even think I knew which Pokemon made
what sound back was back then. You know. So we played far enough
to see about opening up this gift and seeing what was in it and
then we opened it and it was a freaking new


Jake 38:00
Wow that's pretty awesome


Wulff 38:01
he's not even at the first gym yet and now he's got a mew is
randomized or does everyone I don't know if everybody gets a mew
or if it's kind of random for rare Pokemon in general and we just
got really lucky or one


Jake 38:17
of us part of it didn't look into the only way you can get them
you in that game is if you pay the 6070 bucks for the Pokeball
accessory oh wow like in the original game that I think they gave
me away there's usually had some kind of like public event and
they let you get access Yeah,


Wulff 38:31
they did mall events all over the place. And you had to go wait
in line and have your Gameboy and your cartridge just fired up
trade get your me


Jake 38:44
wants to do that again recently with sun and moon or pokemon go
one of the two there's a new one that is literally a bolt like a
nut like a metal and steel not that's a Pokemon now I think his
name is meltin and I want to say done locket. You had to go What
was events?


Wulff 39:01
But I do have to say I kind of enjoy how let's go plays it feels
less tedious since encounters with wild Pokemon or just throw
balls at it and catch it move on. There's no beating it up to try
and catch it there's just smashing the A button over and over to
get it over with because every interaction if it's not a trainer
battle, it's over in like 15 seconds. If that is you try using
enjoy. So that was actually kind of nice. Um, no, we haven't
played it with the joy con yet. He's just been playing with the
poker ball play


Jake 39:33
with the joy con because you can play with two players kind of in
that game. I play with my kids and we don't have the pokemon
ball. But joy cons are hot garbage with it. And you spend 10
balls trying to hit a goddamn Pokemon. But it's all trade.


Wulff 39:46
Oh, he catches it every frickin time with the poker ball. Plus,
it's ridiculous. The little tiny circle. He's getting excellent,
amazing. Yeah, I don't know what it is. But he's also playing
like five feet from a 42 inch TV. That At his eye level so


Jake 40:02
well clearly he's destiny a Pokemon master he just said him
outside world with a baseball hat and a backpack and said Good
luck.


Wulff 40:09
Yeah, well he's not 10 yet he's only five he's halfway there.


Palsh 40:13
Hell I'm 35 and I'm not ready for that


Wulff 40:18
Alright, so let's let's let's touch on the anime and the movies a
little more. I'm going to openly admit and open myself up for
mockery here. I saw a Pokemon the first movie Pokemon 2000 and
Pokemon I don't know what it was called Pokemon three. I don't
know if that's what it was called. Something else the one with
MJ. I saw all three of those in theaters. I never saw a single
one of them to be honest.


GP 40:43
I'm sorry. What was it? Hint hint? A No You said


Wulff 40:48
I it was some big orange dog thing that looked kind of like a
growl either and


GP 40:54
it was bigger googling hint a right now and it's it's not popping
up anything like what you're talking about?


Wulff 41:01
That's that was the last one I saw that I was kind of like and
now my phone crashed but but when I when I saw the first one in
theaters, I legit teared up. I don't know if you guys have seen
that movie, but toward the end,


GP 41:17
I think the only one I saw was Pokemon 2000 and that was at a
drive in theater. That was also showing Casper Do you guys
remember that with Christina Ricci? That was like the double
feature, and I think that's the only time I saw Pokemon 2000


Wulff 41:37
pretty sure that movie came well before Pokemon 2000


GP 41:40
Oh yeah, I'm not saying it was topical. I'm just saying that's
what was playing.


Jake 41:44
It was a classic. For me it was the less the movies and more the
cartoon the first season and Pokemon the anime that's like a
guilty pleasure for me. I watched it with my kids not too long
ago and every time Pikachu I know it's me fine. I know his will
never die ever. But anytime he's in mortal peril and he's just
beaten up, and he gives that little cry and clutches them tightly
like a baby. I should have single tier every time. I don't care
who hates me


Palsh 42:14
hates you. Everybody relates to you now.


GP 42:17
Yeah. Who would show hate? Like how dare you have feelings toward
this cartoon? Yeah,


Wulff 42:22
it's it's funny how much more prevalent Pokemon is these days
than it was when you know generation one released but with Gen
one they had what two or three musical albums that released with
the anime and it was ridiculous and I don't know what they they
do that stuff anymore. I'm pretty sure it's just the games and
plushies mostly at this point.


Jake 42:44
In terms of merchandise. Oh, there's all kinds of merchandise.
Yeah.


Wulff 42:48
My my brother had one of the CDs that to be a master album.
Attract microphone master. Turn off


Palsh 42:55
the tape right the ghetto blaster


Unknown Speaker 42:58
Exactly.


Palsh 43:00
That's That's some 41


Jake 43:01
but I went over overseas to Tokyo there. We actually went to
other Pokemon centers, but we didn't even we didn't need to go to
that store. There's Pokemon everywhere in Tokyo I guess that goes
up saying but from cookies to juice, the vending machine to
underwear, literally everything. And I still see a lot of that
over here too. I still I still see the occasional Pokemon
figurines and toys and stuff.


Wulff 43:21
We went to the mall a couple weeks ago here and I saw a little
like one of those stands and it wasn't really a kiosk but it was
like a standalone vending machine kind of thing. But it was
called a Pokemon Center and it had a vending machine on one side
with a bunch of Pokemon merge in it, and then it had a poker
decks on another side where you could like look at the different
Pokemon and it was kind of wild.


Jake 43:45
Well, I was just actually just at the CME in Toronto. It's
basically a big fair exhibition in the UK carnival games, that
kind of thing. And some of the prizes are obviously knockoff
Pokemon merchandise, right? And I saw a family like with three
kids and strollers One of the kids was clutching a I mean a
gigantic Pikachu. Like it was probably two three feet long. It's
huge. And this pair of guys and I mean, buff, gym looking dudes,
six and a half, seven feet tall, just the toughest guys walking
down the street or the the avenue and they see the kid with the
giant Pikachu and they walk up, hands on hips like yo yo, would
you get that Pikachu and the basketball game? Oh, thanks so much
and then they just ran ran for the carnival game but the games to
get their own tickets you know just to show you that the
generation who love Gen one are all like you know 30 plus now for
the most part and have that just love a peek into stuff.


Wulff 44:45
Oh yeah, Pikachu. I mean, they knew that was a gold mine from the
get go. It they were in Topeka you there was friggin Pokemon
Yellow. I think to this day, they still brand pretty much Every
console with a Pikachu to some extent, even if it's a limited
release, ridiculous. But yeah, I gotta say I'm I do like the
older cartoons. There's probably only one line I still remember
from the original movie. Or maybe it was the second movie I don't
know is from one of the movies, there was a really bad line that
I choose, you know? No, no, no nothing. And I'm pretty sure it
was the second movie because it was a bunch of people on a yacht.
I don't know, it might have been the first movie I really don't
remember, but there's a bunch of people on a boat and you
overhear them talking like there's people at different tables
eating and talking and it passes by one table and you hear a guy
go, and I said, No, I just had crab bees and everybody burst into
laughter. I was like, Oh my god, that is not a kid friendly joke.


Jake 45:56
Even crabs is a Pokemon.


Jake 45:59
Gotta catch mall


GP 46:05
Okay, here's a question. Because I legit don't know, in the
Pokemon universe, are there what we would consider normal
animals? Like is there like a like a dog just a regular canine?
Or is every single animal in that universe of Pokemon?


Wulff 46:27
I feel like generation one the way we were introduced to Pokemon
made it sound like there were other animals that were not
Pokemon. But the further we get into the franchise, if you like,
the less, that seems to be the case. Right? Which is really
bizarre because I'm pretty sure oak said that all the Pokemon
shared a lot of common genes. Okay, and so that means they're
like, all these Pokemon are just weird mutants and we're just
living on their planet.


GP 47:00
Just how uneventful and underwhelming and potentially scary would
it be to be like a dog? Or like a regular domestic house cat in
the Pokemon world be horrifying, and you'd be let down to
everybody


Jake 47:17
with your account Oh, you're sure the cow will eat you will grind
you into burgers but you know mu tanks or whatever the cow
pokeyman is? Yeah milk bank


Wulff 47:27
and


Jake 47:28
Toro him. He's a Pokemon special. Eat that goddamn cow, right


GP 47:38
Okay, there


Wulff 47:40
we go question can you carve up a milk and eat some of it leave
it alive take it to a Pokemon Center and heal it


Jake 47:49
the question doesn't want you to think about


Unknown Speaker 47:52
right yeah.


Wulff 47:53
With the with the hard questions will be getting that cease and
desist very soon.


GP 47:59
There's always He's that kid at school who runs up and you're
like, oh, man, check it out. You know, I got this cool new thing
that everybody has. And it's the offering thing that you know,
you had to get from the dollar store that that was me growing up
so I can make this year. But that kid shows up with a pokey ball.
He's like, Can I just check it out? I got like a Meowth. And he
opens it and it's just like a cat. Like, damn it, Randall. You
know, go back to the corner. That's horrible. That's how bullying
starts. And it's not funny.


Jake 48:34
Robots aren't real transformers. Back to eat and paste. I'm just
picturing now somebody's taking a cat into Pokemon battle. just
pulling in a cat carrier like the opponent's like charges are
going from smokey ball. And then some guy with a cat carrier.
Smell with go nuts.


Palsh 48:53
And it's like I said house can literally a house. Yeah. And it's
like way more feral than the He has


GP 49:00
a Pokemon delivers takes down the gear dose, and it gets
disqualified but like kinda


Palsh 49:07
like Karate Kid, you know wins with that illegal kick to the
head.


GP 49:12
Yeah, but at that point everybody had already stormed the man.
I'm sorry. Effective.


Palsh 49:20
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, the press beat cancel. This is how
we normally talk. Yeah, I apologize. So


Wulff 49:28
I think it's almost time to hit be so let's go ahead and go
around and see what everybody's favorite point in the series was.
I think for me, it's pretty safe to say it was just Pokemon blue
period. I that's I played the crap out of it. I played through it
two or three times. I traded for every single Pokemon And that my
friends and I figured out how to do the missing no nonsense and
all that. It's blue holds a special place in my heart that no
other entry in the game has in the French has been able to
replicate.


GP 50:02
Cool, cool. I think for me, my favorite moments, or era of
Pokemon is the day after I was introduced to Pokemon, because I
got the idea of what it was. And my mind was like being expanded
to see what the rules were for the card game and then gradually
introduced to all this other stuff. And it was just this
amazingly fun idea. And so to be at the front door, of all the
stuff that you know, you're about to learn, it's going to be
awesome. That was that was magic. That was absolute magic. So for
me, that was my favorite part.


Jake 50:43
You know, for me, it's Pokemon. It's when's the spin off? That's
the stuff I enjoy the most and actually quite like what they're
doing today or nowadays with it. Detective Pikachu is probably
good. Good spin on I believe there was a game on the 3ds for
that. And I just love how to peek at you with a little character,
and he's in he's in this combat situation or you think he's going
to be with his friend there who has tried to peek at you. And
he's like Pikachu use Thunderbolt. And detective Pikachu just
looks at this guy and says use Thunderbolt. And to me, that's
just like, the funniest thing in the planet, right? Like, humans
order around animals do battle, and the animal turning to you and
say, What the hell are you talking about? I love to pick at you
that the recent movie, the CGI movie, I thought was actually
really great. And I hope to do more crazy stuff like that. Like
the mainline games are fun at all. But when they take Pokemon and
put it into different situations that spin off, I love that kind
of stuff.


Palsh 51:39
Yeah, that's, that's really cool. I like that. And I haven't even
seen the movie yet. So now I really want to see it. But for me,
it's definitely I want to say Sapphire because I was playing it
so much like it was probably from like August to December. I
didn't really play anything else. I'd be watching the movie
gravity. We're watching a movie and I playing the game. But I
think it's just that introduction to Sapphire, by playing Ruby is
probably my fondest memory of the entire franchise just because
my friend came down out of the blue. And it's just one of those
things like we were both at a high school and I just remember
that it was just is a memory that I'll always cherish and I don't
know. It was just cool. It's It was like a new era of video games
for me, so


Wulff 52:27
I think that's fair. Alright, so I think we can go ahead and wrap
up


Palsh 52:34
this list of her favorite Pokemon real quick,


GP 52:37
Ryan Reynolds.


Wulff 52:38
Oh, I see. I can't talk today. debido Danny DeVito


Wulff 52:47
could you


GP 52:50
honestly, if I could have like a real life Pokemon. I'd want it
to be a growl if they're so cool looking. Yeah, they are pretty
cool. And I feel safe and cuddly? You can't cuddle a gear a dose


Wulff 53:04
I'm not even a cat person but I liked Persian don't know why


GP 53:10
I think that silence is a little bit


Wulff 53:13
it was a cat that could literally create money out of nothing so


Palsh 53:18
yeah


GP 53:18
yeah that's a great option only kept


Wulff 53:19
the least if you evolved it from mouth and Persian was way cooler
than me out so


Palsh 53:24
that's true that's good solid logic I'll agree with you for there
Matt that it's not gonna be my favorite but it's respectable.
Jake What do you just like the one you actually


Jake 53:35
I like them we're actually gonna go with Ryan rattle on that goes
right right I love rock Canadian Ryan Reynolds is a fantastic
Pokemon But no, I like the one I don't even know his name. But
it's basically a steel ring with keys attached and that's a
Pokemon. I love that one. I'm not I'm not even kidding. I don't
notice they marry


Wulff 53:53
you coming up with the jingling


Jake 53:54
key Pokemon is the best of all.


GP 53:58
The okay real quick, just to Bring this whole thing home. Sick
Jay, did you play with Gobots I think somebody who's played a
trick on you


Jake 54:08
know Gobots I had one Optimus Prime and I had my toy that was it


Palsh 54:13
turns out he's kept attacking YuGiOh or, or digium on all this
time.


Wulff 54:19
This is Pocket Monsters not digital monsters.


GP 54:24
Also, I think if if you have a life that you know, you want to
escape your life than the me the the Mewtwo sorry, is the Pokemon
that you want. Because then if he's cool, he can just get in your
mind and you can live whatever life you want. Yes,


Wulff 54:41
that's true,


GP 54:43
too, and introduce people like, Hey, this is my Pokemon. It's
kind of a dick. Or you'd be like, Hey, I don't feel like doing
anything today. Can you get in my head and making things that I'm
on Jupiter.


Wulff 54:53
So you're wanting you to be your own personal Total Recall.


GP 54:58
That is exactly what I'm saying. That was perfectly stated where
I was going to say he wanted a pet Dr. Manhattan


Palsh 55:03
but okay.


Jake 55:06
A pet What? Whoa, wait a minute 12 his penis and a Pokemon sounds
good to me.


Wulff 55:11
I got that reference.


GP 55:17
Okay, first off, I have to point out stick Jake uses metric. I
don't think he knows what bobbins means. Man I think Sorry guys,
I'm sorry. I've loved this this episode, but I'm sorry that I've
been the main reason we've gotten off track. I'm so sorry.


Palsh 55:44
I think it's fine. minds fit my favorite Squirtle By the way,
dicks.


Wulff 55:52
Oh, yeah, there's a good question. What was your starters from
Jen one Squirtle real


Palsh 55:57
quick. I always go with the Pokemon if given a chance,


Wulff 56:02
mine was Charmander


Palsh 56:03
sucka.


Wulff 56:05
Being original I named him Bernie.


Jake 56:08
I use I always wanted the fire type or the ones that look like a
cat. I was a cat person and like half this team, and I usually
named them stupid things like dog food, frozen peas, creamed
corn, stuff like that. Don't ask me why, dude. My dude, no.


GP 56:26
Actually, I was watertight to I went with with Squirtle. And I
kind of want to change my answer to my favorite being cubone
because of how heartbreaking The story is that yes,


Palsh 56:36
I love the cubone Yeah, let's not bring it up here because I
don't want to cry. But, uh, anybody who's listening, if you don't
know the story of a cubone, you should check it out. Because it's
Yeah, it is actually worth looking up. So


GP 56:49
just yeah, here's all you have to Google is whose skull is cubone
wearing And if that's not the most emotion you've ever heard
Yeah, I love it. Also, I mean but yeah, the key chain one is nice
to J it's fine


Jake 57:05
I have look his name up


Wulff 57:09
anyway this has been presby to cancel I was your host this week
thank you for having me for a second week now.


Palsh 57:14
Who are you a


Wulff 57:17
werewolf? You can find me on Twitch and Twitter


Palsh 57:21
w ar EWL ff


Wulff 57:25
I was going to leave it to the imagination this time but thank
you


Palsh 57:28
all right Polish take it away Hi my name is sick Jake you can
find me on Twitter as well as a weight not I'm post one on you
find me on Twitch at pulse 109 pls H


Wulff 57:41
and GP


GP 57:43
know go for it. Go for it Jay.


Jake 57:47
Thanks GP. For the record. His name is Cliff key cholesky the key
chain Pokemon it resembles a key ring with four keys aspherical
head and a small pink oval on his forehead anyway That's that's
his life story. That's pretty much it. It's also dark and jiggli
My name is sick Jake you can find me sick Jake on Twitter or on
Twitch. I'm a part time by annual never streamer


Wulff 58:10
and then our resident derailer Gp.


GP 58:14
Yeah, this is GP. Typical spelling. Sorry. And you can find me on
the retro therapy, which is of course on Twitch. We're also on
Twitter and Instagram, as the retro therapy.


Wulff 58:29
Alright, thank you everybody for tuning in. band EQ pq


Palsh 58:36
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