Dr Melanie Joy on Relationships & Carnism

Have you ever heard of Dr. Melanie Joy? Well, if you haven’t you
should! Is it acceptable to say this could be our favourite
episode to date?


Joy has an incredible capacity to distill information in the most
tangible way. She effortlessly cuts to the core of so many major
issues that impact us all. From the macros like climate change or
racism to the micros of personal relationships.



“When you look at systems of oppression like racism,
classism, carnism/animal exploitation. All of these are expressions
of the same type of thinking. Each set of victims of these forms of
oppression will always have unique experiences, but the systems
themselves are structurally similar and the mentality that drives
these systems are the same.”




Melanie Joy, Ph.D., is a Harvard-educated psychologist
specialising in relationships, communication, and social
change. She is the author of six books, including the
award-winning Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows,
Beyond Beliefs: A Guide to Improving Relationships and
Communication Among Vegans, Vegetarians, and Meat
Eaters, and Getting Relationships Right. Joy is the
eighth recipient of the Institute of Jainology’s Ahimsa Award,
which was previously given to Nelson Mandela and the Dalai
Lama. Her work has been featured by numerous media outlets,
including the BBC, ABC Australia, NPR, and the New York
Times. She is also the founding President of the non-profit
organisation, Beyond Carnism.


Moving from effective and ineffective forms of communication and
relation literacy to veganism and her own perfectly coined term,
Carnism - We delve deep into her formula for successful
relations, and really how attainable it is. 



“Every communication, has two parts to it; it has the
content, that’s what we are communicating about and then there’s
the process, and that’s HOW we are communicating. We tend to all
over-focus on the content “I just want to get the words right, I
just want to get my answer out there”, but the process matters much
more. If you think about a conversation that you had, 6 months to a
year ago. It’s possible that you actually forgot the content
entirely -somebody you talked to at a party or something- but you
probably remembered how you felt in that conversation. The process
determines how you feel and when your process is healthy, you can
communicate about anything without arguing…when your process is not
healthy, you can’t communicate about anything without arguing. You
probably know people who have so much in common, and yet always
seem to find a reason to butt heads and argue together.”




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Big love,


Dave & Steve





You can learn more about Dr. Melanie Joy and her work
at carnism.org.


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