Spooky Safety and Killer Causes

Inattentive blindness, complacency, and the OSHA’s Fatality
Inspection Data.  What could make a Halloween episode more
scary?


On today’s Fractional Safety episode of the MEMIC Safety Experts
Podcast killer causes and how to avoid them are the topic of
discussion.


00;00;04;03 - 00;00;28;20


Pete Koch


Hello out there in podcast land. You're listening to the MEMIC
Safety Experts podcast. I'm your host, Peter Koch. Workplace
safety can be scary or it can be when its principles, practices
and policies aren't followed or ignored. While any time is a good
time to review workplace hazards, Halloween provides an
interesting backdrop to examine some of the more frightening
ones.


 


00;00;29;19 - 00;01;00;14


Pete Koch


Did you know that there were around 116 fatal workplace injuries
reported to OSHA between January and August of this year 2022? If
you are great, hopefully you've taken a look at them. But if you
haven't. Let me tell you, the list reads like a bad horror novel.
But instead of the killer hiding somewhere with an ax or a
chainsaw and the victim makes bad choices, well, the victims are
all regular people, and the killers are.


 


00;01;00;26 - 00;01;34;16


Pete Koch


Well, they're more common than you think. The victims in these
reports are all normal, everyday working men and women who came
to work and never made it back home to their friends, their
parents, children, partners or spouses. And they left a hole in
the lives of those who are around them. The killers aren't crazy
or extraordinary either. You're not going to see one of them
crashing into your life like a marvel villain or smashing his ax
through the door, like in The Shining or some supernatural force
that you never saw coming.


 


00;01;34;27 - 00;02;01;23


Pete Koch


They are, or at least most are hiding in plain sight. And if you
pay attention, not even very carefully, but with an eye for
potential, and not through the lens of experience or repetition,
you can see them everywhere. And I guarantee one of you listeners
has encountered one or more of these already today. And if you
haven't yet, I expect you will.


 


00;02;02;25 - 00;02;22;24


Pete Koch


So from the list, if you read the list that OSHA has got out
there, by far the most common killer cause is, well, of course,
falling and usually falls from height or some sort of height, but
it can be a fall on the same level. So take, for example, a fatal
fall that occurred back in January. Well, not that far away.


 


00;02;22;25 - 00;02;45;21


Pete Koch


January of 2022, according to the OSHA investigation, a worker
was unrolling a power washer hose on a roof when they fell
through a skylight 30 feet to the floor and died from blunt force
trauma injuries. I bet you you can relate if you've ever had that
feeling of one moment, there's solid ground under your feet, in
the next you're falling.


 


00;02;46;07 - 00;03;07;18


Pete Koch


Maybe that feeling has come when you've taken the one inch mile
fall. You know that one. I bet you were. You step down in the
surface is just a little lower than what you expect. There's that
split second feeling like you're falling a rush of adrenaline, a
sizable contraction of every muscle while you try to regain your
balance.


 


00;03;07;18 - 00;03;32;14


Pete Koch


Then your foot, finally, after it seems an eternity, finds the
lower level. And once you catch your breath, all is good in the
world again. Those are bad enough. Well, stretch that first split
second into almost two, which is an eternity in an unintended
freefall. Increase your speed to almost 30 miles an hour and then
break your fall.


 


00;03;32;15 - 00;03;56;20


Pete Koch


Well, with whatever part of your body hits first, because that's
not something that you can plan. Falling toward the earth at 30
miles an hour and then all is definitely not right with the world
again. After that happens. And so where do I get that
information? Well, if you do the math, you start thinking about
how far or how fast am I going to be going if I fall 30 feet to
the floor?


 


00;03;56;20 - 00;04;25;21


Pete Koch


And how long does it take? Well, that 30 foot freefall takes
about 2 seconds, just a little less than 2 seconds, and you'll
increase velocity from zero to almost 30 miles an hour before you
hit the ground. That's like getting hit with a mack truck
standing still on the highway. And even if you're lucky enough to
survive the landing, because people have when we've had falls
that I've had to investigate, where we've had a six foot freefall
and the individual did not make it.


 


00;04;25;27 - 00;04;48;22


Pete Koch


We've also had some where they've fallen lot farther than 30 feet
and they have made it. But if you're lucky enough to survive the
trauma that you're almost guaranteed to sustain, that trauma was
never intended to be absorbed by your body. Things on the inside
break. Other things in the inside get moved to places that they
shouldn't be.


 


00;04;49;08 - 00;05;10;17


Pete Koch


The recovery will be long and painful, and the overall results
will be less than desired and won't be 100% ever, ever again.
Prevention here may not be as clear cut as one would think, and
maybe you do. Maybe you look at it and go, Well, of course they
should have done something with the skylight or he have been up
there in the first place.


 


00;05;10;26 - 00;05;38;08


Pete Koch


Well, whose responsibility is the skylight? Usually it's the
property owner. They have the responsibility for the hazards on
the premises. Well, if they didn't take care of it and the worker
was working for a contractor, then who's responsible for it? Is
it the property owner or should the worker, the contractor, have
identified the hazard and provided the appropriate protections?


 


00;05;38;28 - 00;06;10;05


Pete Koch


Well, we can go back to an OCA standard to give us guidance
there. So OSHA states in 19 10.20 982 that the employers must and
then again must not. It should but must provide and install all
fall protection systems and following object protection. This
subpart requires and comply with the other requirements in this
subpart before any any employee begins work that necessitates
fall or falling object protection.


 


00;06;10;28 - 00;06;48;06


Pete Koch


So taking that there is a requirement there that an employer
should be identifying those things first and protecting those
employees from that. So even if they were a contractor, the
employer, their employer should have done something with that
too, if they're doing it from a construction standpoint, not
general industry. OSHA requires that each employee on walking
working surfaces shall be protected from falling through holes,
including skylights more than six feet above lower levels by
personal follow up systems, covers or guardrail systems erected
around such holes.


 


00;06;48;10 - 00;07;14;03


Pete Koch


And that comes from 1926. 501b41. Yeah. That killer skylight
should have been identified and covered by the contractor before
the work began. Or the building owner should have taken actions
before the worker went up on the roof. Well, from a practical
standpoint, it should be like the voice in your head when you
watch a thriller or horror movie like that.


 


00;07;14;12 - 00;07;31;07


Pete Koch


Right. So if you're going up there on the roof and you see that
skylight, it's kind of like watching the horror movie, right? You
sit there watching the movie and you think, well, don't, don't do
it. Don't go in. Don't go in there. Don't, don't do it. There's
the thing is in there. Don't go. And then they go.


 


00;07;32;06 - 00;07;56;10


Pete Koch


You see the hazard. You should just run the other way. But we
don't because we don't see the hazard for what it is. Take, for
instance, this next fatality reported to OSHA in January of 2002.
So little later on in in the month, and I'm going to take a
little bit of creative license here, not with the incident, but
with imagining what might have happened before the incident.


 


00;07;56;18 - 00;08;17;28


Pete Koch


So it's two days after Christmas and the worker got up in the
morning, made coffee or maybe held off until the drive to work.
So it's a daily habit. I get up, I make my coffee or I do
something showered, got dressed in the clothes that they were
going to wear, that they wear every day. So they get it in their
work clothes, a long sleeve, work shirt, jeans and maybe boots.


 


00;08;17;28 - 00;08;37;15


Pete Koch


They grabbed a jacket and headed off to work and they maybe even
carpooled with others. Again, all good habits that we can rely
on. Those are the things that are comfortable to us, the things
that keep us going every day, especially when it gets tough,
whether it be whether tough or just life tough. Some of those
habits really helped to get us by him.


 


00;08;38;21 - 00;09;07;25


Pete Koch


Then he arrived at work. He checked in with the supervisors and
went out to the factory floor. Again, habits. Right. But their
everything went from normal to wrong without anyone ever even
noticing. So remember those habits? The OSHA incident description
states the employee was feeding a one and a half inch bar, stuck
into a strainer on his glove or shirt sleeve, was caught on the
rotating bar stock.


 


00;09;08;04 - 00;09;36;10


Pete Koch


The employee was pulled on to the rotating bar stock, causing him
to flip forward while his clothing continued to be wrapped around
the rotating bar, crushing the employee and causing fatal
injuries. A coworker found the employee entrapped on the bar by
his clothing, stopped the machine and called a supervisor.
Medical help was contacted and first responders arrived, began
treatment but could find no signs of life.


 


00;09;37;10 - 00;10;00;28


Pete Koch


The local police department and the coroner's office were called
after that terrible tragedy when anything like that happens and
just kind of put yourself in the position of while one the the
the deceased in that moment when they realized that they
something's going horribly wrong, that they got caught in this
machine and that they don't really know what's going to happen
next.


 


00;10;01;01 - 00;10;21;18


Pete Koch


So that just terror that's going to hit their head and then put
yourself in the footsteps of the coworker that found that
individual. Like what's going to happen with them? They're never
going to see the world in the same way again after that. Well,
how do you prevent it? In the right mindset, you might have seen
it coming.


 


00;10;22;00 - 00;10;45;21


Pete Koch


So the loose shirt or an unbuttoned shirt sleeve rotating parts
could have been missing guards. If you go back and look at the
OSHA incident description in the report, there are some citations
in there and they go back to the machine guarding or the OSHA
standards on machines and machine guarding, but those in
themselves, they're all different hazards in one way or another.


 


00;10;45;21 - 00;11;20;23


Pete Koch


So the unbuttoned shirt sleeve rotating parts, a loose shirt,
missing guards. So they're all hazards in one form or another.
And they're going to exist out there. And one of those by
themselves really isn't a big deal. But when they all come
together, it's like everyone's watching the movie and they know
what's about to happen. But just like in those eighties and
nineties serial killer movies, when the disposable actor finally
recognizes that the killer's in the house with them and had been
there all the time by that time, it's too late.


 


00;11;21;13 - 00;11;51;12


Pete Koch


So if you go back to those OSHA standards on machines and machine
guarding, it states one or more methods of machine guarding shall
be provided to protect the operator and other employees in the
machine area from hazards such as those created by point of
operation and in going nip points, rotating parts, flying chips
and sparks. And that's from 1910 to 12, a one it's a pretty plain
in-your-face standard.


 


00;11;51;19 - 00;12;10;23


Pete Koch


You know, if you want to distill that into one sentence, if it
turns or rotates and you can touch it, then guard it. Well, then
how come workers at risk don't make the connection? It would seem
pretty simple. OSHA has got a standard. If it turns and rotates
and I can touch it, then I guard it because I know that machines
don't stop.


 


00;12;10;28 - 00;12;35;06


Pete Koch


They're certainly not going to stop for my clothing and they're
not going to stop for my person. Well, over the last, I don't
know, 25 years or so as a safety person investigating injuries
for both Mimic and my previous employers. I'm going to chalk it
up to what I believe is the most common killer cause, and that is
complacency.


 


00;12;36;09 - 00;12;58;18


Pete Koch


So interestingly enough, a few weeks ago, I was speaking to a
master electrician who had retired after spending 40 years in a
local mill. He started talking about the last few years before he
retired and then why he chose to retired, because he really loved
his work. He, and especially towards the end of his career,
really enjoyed training the new people that were coming on.


 


00;12;59;11 - 00;13;29;11


Pete Koch


However, as we got talking, he explained that he started to
recognize that the safety practices and some of the other tasks
he was teaching the new maintenance staff or apprentices. He was
finding that he himself was not following that. So there is a
difference. He began to notice between what he was teaching in
class and with people on the job and the shortcuts he was taking
himself when he was by himself.


 


00;13;29;15 - 00;13;52;06


Pete Koch


Or unfortunately, he told me of a couple of times too, when he
showed those shortcuts to some of the people that he was
teaching. He told me that he felt that he could be careful enough
and he knew the extent of the risks he was taking on. And at some
point he was comfortable with that. But what really happened
there was he recognized that there was a challenge.


 


00;13;52;25 - 00;14;20;20


Pete Koch


He had 40 years of experience and that 40 years gave him a lot of
practice and familiarity. But it only takes one moment of
inattention when you're exposed to the hazard to end it all. He
had this wonderful or maybe scary realization, his light bulb
moment that his own complacency with the hazards that he worked
around every day was the problem.


 


00;14;20;27 - 00;14;40;24


Pete Koch


And that was his savior because he didn't get hurt when he was
there. He kind of got out while the getting was good, I guess you
could say. He saw the clown with the hatchet. If we want to take
this back to the horror movie example, he saw the clown with the
hatchet at the end of the hall, and he turned and he walked the
other way or closed the door.


 


00;14;41;07 - 00;15;10;27


Pete Koch


There are plenty of other examples from OSHA's 2022 fatality list
that are a lot less graphic, but they're just as deadly, and they
still take a person away from their world. It takes them away
from their family and friends. They're not there anymore. And
it's important it's important for us to to understand that the
majority of these all of these could have been prevented in one
way or another, just like this one from January.


 


00;15;10;27 - 00;15;37;13


Pete Koch


Again, the OSHA investigation description states an employee and
coworker began to repair light fixtures at the worksite that were
broken. A short time later, the coworker yelled out to the
employee to get their attention, but they got no response. The
coworker found the employee, the other employee that they were
working with laying in a ceiling crawl space and they tapped on
the employee's foot.


 


00;15;38;02 - 00;16;16;14


Pete Koch


And again, no response. The coworker had nearby bystanders call
for an emergency response team and then went to go shut the power
off to the lights. The fire department arrived, pulled the
employee from the crawlspace, attempts at resuscitation were
ineffective and it was deemed the employee was killed by
electrocution. So if you're a safety professional listening to
this, just stop for a moment and try to count the number of times
that you've argued with another electrician about de energizing
of a circuit, especially when it's a 15 or 20 amp circuit.


 


00;16;16;26 - 00;16;39;04


Pete Koch


It's almost always too much trouble to go find turn off and lock
the circuit out before working on it or replacing or installing
fixtures. I know when I have the opportunity to to teach one of
the OSHA outreach classes and we do the electrical section, it's
interesting to talk to all the individuals and ask them about
their experience.


 


00;16;39;04 - 00;17;00;23


Pete Koch


And when we get to the electrical part, we ask them, So who here
has had a little bite before? And most of the people there will
raise their hands, especially if they've worked in the
maintenance departments before or in construction before, or
probably have done some work on the side or in their own homes
before. They've all had a little bit nip of electricity and
survived.


 


00;17;00;29 - 00;17;28;01


Pete Koch


And the next question I'll ask them is, well, how come you didn't
die? And everybody will have different answers about that. But
honestly, it's really just luck that they weren't more tasty to
the electricity than the wire and the rest of the stuff that was
around them. They had more resistance than the copper wire, but
honestly, it's complacency in this last section that was the
killer again.


 


00;17;28;25 - 00;18;00;23


Pete Koch


And unfortunately, the list just keeps going on and on. If you
want to read more about Killer causes, because honestly, these
are tragic, but they are good fodder for your safety meetings
because lots of times people will never think that it'll happen
to them. And these are all descriptions about things that happen
to people just like them. So you can read through the
descriptions and then talk about what did they think happened,
how what could we do to prevent it?


 


00;18;00;24 - 00;18;33;12


Pete Koch


Could this even happen here? So if you're interested to it, then
go to OSHA dot gov. If you haven't been to the website before,
it's actually got a lot of good information on it. So go to ocean
dot gov and type in fatality inspection data in that search OSHA
bar in the upper right. And it's going to come up with all this
information you can sort by year, you can sort by state, you can
sort by the type or the cause, and you'll find lots of different
items that you can use for your own safety meetings.


 


00;18;33;12 - 00;18;59;08


Pete Koch


It's good, and it helps people step away from complacency because
complacency really is the killer. Cause here. And it lurks in the
places that we frequent, where we work sometimes, where we play.
Most of the time it comes disguised as something. So normal that
we don't even see them. Never mind, expect them. They won't seem
dangerous until it's too late.


 


00;18;59;17 - 00;19;24;19


Pete Koch


And sometimes we won't see them unless we look at our world from
a different perspective, especially our safety world from a
different perspective. And I'm not talking about rose colored
glasses, but here we often think of hazards that can kill as
obvious or easy to spot, something that we will see coming from a
mile away and can avoid it, like seeing the scary clown carrying
the machete at the end of the hallway.


 


00;19;24;27 - 00;19;51;28


Pete Koch


We should be able to identify the threat and run the other way.
Or like the retired master electrician closed the door. But we
don't all the time. We don't see it all the time. We become
complacent. We don't know that the hazard or at least forefront
of our brain, that the hazard that's in right in front of us can
cause substantial injury or possibly even kill us.


 


00;19;53;03 - 00;20;15;03


Pete Koch


So how do we fight complacency? Because it's going to happen to
us. We all experience it in our lives and personally it's really
hard to fight that because it's right there in front of us and we
get really used to the things that are around us and experts
actually have a name for that. It's called Intentional Blindness.
It's the concept of that.


 


00;20;15;03 - 00;20;48;02


Pete Koch


We become blind to what's right in front of us. And I know that
you've experienced that before, where you don't see something
that's right in front of you because something else was taking
your attention and becoming familiar with a place or an area can
compound this inattentive blindness, especially when we couple it
with some other demands. And there are tons of different demands
at work that can cause us to lose sight of the goal of coming
home every day safe and in one piece.


 


00;20;48;10 - 00;21;05;11


Pete Koch


Because at the end of day, if you don't do that, then what is
work for? Like, we work for many different things. We work for a
goal. We work for something to do. We work for money. We work for
our families. And if we don't come home at the end of the day or
our employees don't come home at the end of the day, then what's
it really for?


 


00;21;05;12 - 00;21;35;15


Pete Koch


Because we're not achieving the goal that we want. But consider,
think about how narrow a focus or consider how to narrow a focus
on productivity can drive some strange choices in the workplace.
Like if all we ever focus on is being productive and the money,
then we make some weird choices. We don't see the things that are
right in front of us, and if we do that enough without getting
hurt, right?


 


00;21;35;15 - 00;22;00;03


Pete Koch


So there's that positive reward. So I'm going to focus on the
money all the time and I'm not going to have anybody get injured.
And that successful experience of being exposed to a hazard and
not becoming injured, which happens a lot more frequently than
the other, that feeds the attitude of complacency. And it just
it's a self-perpetuating cycle when I don't focus on the things
that are important.


 


00;22;00;03 - 00;22;27;10


Pete Koch


And, yes, productivity is important. We cannot be a successful
business without having productivity and quality. But if we don't
balance that with safety, then we won't be successful over the
long term. But again, going back to it as an individual, it may
not be possible to avoid all instances of intentional blindness
when it comes to safety, because a lot of the other external
factors, it becomes incredibly difficult.


 


00;22;27;21 - 00;22;51;05


Pete Koch


So it's important to remember that this is going to happen to
you. It's interesting how it all works. Your brain is
sophisticated enough to help you take in and understand all those
visual and auditory cues out of all the background noise that we
see and hear every day and what gets passed on your brain, things
will provide you or provide you with the most value.


 


00;22;51;13 - 00;23;26;02


Pete Koch


It's thinking that hears all the information that you need to
make this decision. But what happens in that effort, that visual
information, both important and not important, can sometimes get
overlooked. And we don't have the whole picture. I bet you it's
happened to you like you're driving down the road, a road that
you have driven a million miles over or you've driven down that
road a million times, and all of a sudden you start thinking
about your day or what you're going to do when you get home or
something happens and you think back.


 


00;23;26;10 - 00;23;49;16


Pete Koch


And it's been a couple of minutes since you've actually paid
attention to what's going on, on the road. You didn't notice the
stop sign or you didn't notice the change in speed sign or you
didn't notice the person that was right on the side of the road
until they until you were already past them. That's that
inattentive blindness that happens.


 


00;23;49;25 - 00;24;22;16


Pete Koch


And the only way to combat this on our own is to really stop and
really alua your current situation. When you find yourself
focused somewhere else or you're finally you find yourself
focused on something other than the the combination of
information that you actually need to get your job done,
productivity, safety and quality. You won't have all the
information you really need to stop and take a look at what
you're up against in order to be successful as an individual.


 


00;24;23;03 - 00;24;50;23


Pete Koch


It's really hard, but you have help out there, and business and
business owners play a much bigger role in fighting against
complacency as a killer. Then they might think, and interestingly
enough, I'll phrase it this way OSHA was actually created for
just that reason so that we aren't complacent in the workplace or
those outside factors don't drive us to complacency and
inattentiveness.


 


00;24;51;12 - 00;25;24;21


Pete Koch


And the thing that that describes best, the employer's
responsibility is OSHA's general duty clause. And I imagine
you've heard it before, but I'm just going to read it here so
that you know it again. And it states each employer shall furnish
to each of his employees employment. So they got to be employed
and a place of employment which are free from recognized hazards
that are causing or likely to cause death or serious physical
harm to his employees.


 


00;25;25;00 - 00;25;51;04


Pete Koch


And that's from the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970,
Section five A or what we typically call the general duty clause.
And not only is this the catchall, but it's the one standard to
rule them all. It all comes back down to providing a place that's
free from recognized hazards that are causing or likely to cause
injury or serious death.


 


00;25;51;19 - 00;26;17;09


Pete Koch


And that's the responsibility the employer has. They need to know
what the job is, what the potential hazards are, and then put the
protections in place and train the employees around those hazards
and protections before they get engaged in the job. That's great.
Seems simple, right? Well, how do you do that if the work that
you're engaged in is dangerous in and of itself?


 


00;26;17;14 - 00;26;40;12


Pete Koch


Like a lot of the work that we do here in the States or around
the world, actually think about the flag or on the side of the
road. Their job is inherently dangerous. The the individual that
we talked about from the one of the OSHA incidents that we read
that I read through, the one that that fell 30 feet through the
skylight, that job is inherently dangerous.


 


00;26;40;12 - 00;27;17;15


Pete Koch


The person who was straightening out the bar stuck. His job is
inherently dangerous. How do you fix that? Well, like I described
earlier, the rest of the standards provide a place to start. So
as a business owner, you know, you've got a duty. But where do I
go from there? You can start by learning more about the standards
because they give you a lot of great information about what you
need to do and how your workplace should look in order to protect
your staff or your employees from the hazards and exposures that
are there.


 


00;27;18;06 - 00;27;39;22


Pete Koch


And in my experience, there's really no substitute for initial
and ongoing training. So as an employer, that's a place to start.
So when I bring a new employee on, how do I teach them about
what's going on in the workplace, not just where the bathrooms
are, where the paycheck is, and what the job is, but what do they
really need to do to keep themselves safe?


 


00;27;40;00 - 00;28;07;08


Pete Koch


That's step one. If you've got someone who's been there forever
and knows everything, they're a huge resource for you. First,
normalize their understanding of what's required to be safe, and
then once you know that they know what's required, then have them
help you teach it. Have them be the ambassador, have them help
The Apprentice along. That mentorship will really mean a lot and
goes a long way.


 


00;28;07;20 - 00;28;33;15


Pete Koch


But if you don't normalize their understanding of the safety
requirements first, then you're bound to start teaching the wrong
things going forward. The other prongs of that safety four are
checklists and job hazard analysis. Those are excellent tools
that can help not only drive your training, but help provide some
checks throughout the day to help your employees fight
complacency.


 


00;28;33;21 - 00;29;01;09


Pete Koch


Those checklists are awesome. Why do you think pilots go through
a preflight check? That's a really high valued job that they have
and it's the price for failure is enormous. So the checklist
helps them fight complacency because they've got to go through
each and every one. And there's two people doing those checks as
they go through. So checklists are great not just to pencil whip
something, but to actually give your staff something to check in
on themselves for.


 


00;29;01;17 - 00;29;23;19


Pete Koch


And then job hazard analysis are awesome as well because they can
really give you a roadmap of what safety should look like. So
this podcast episode isn't about those the checklists and the job
hazard analysis, but there are some great resources out there
that can help provide you examples to base your checklists and
job hazard analysis is off if you don't already have some.


 


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Pete Koch


I'll put some information about those in the show notes that you
can jump in and take a look. But really, at the end of the day,
the hazard that plays a part in almost every workplace injury and
fatality is complacency. It's really the only killer cause. And
if it's not the only killer cause, it contributes to other
causes.


 


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Pete Koch


And in a future episode, this is an interesting piece. If you
want to jump into a future episode, I'll be talking with Dr.
Julie Sorenson about the concept of nudging in behavioral science
and how it applies to workplace safety. So you should totally two
in because I think nudging is that one tool that you can have in
your manager's bag that can help combat complacency as a killer
cause.


 


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Pete Koch


So tune in for that one because it's going to give you some
different insight into how to help with complacency in the
workplace. Well, we've made it to just about the end of this
podcast episode. And so to all of you listening out there, thank
you. We really appreciate you. Today on the Mimic Safety Experts
podcast, Halloween episode Killer causes have been the topic of
discussion.


 


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Pete Koch


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Pete Koch


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Pete Koch


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