27: How Many 'Dates' Did Rex Heuermann Go On?

We are talking with former federal prosecutor and attorney Eric
Faddis about Rex Heuermann today, where we've obviously learned a
lot about him in the last two weeks, including his alleged
affinity for sex workers. Uh, we're hearing more and more stories
from surviving sex workers who I'm guessing look back going, wow,
that could have been me. But a lot of people have had encounters
allegedly with Heuermann. Do you think we're gonna continue to
see that sort of trend continue? And I also wonder if there were
a lot of red flags that these individuals had, but they simply
couldn't speak out about because number one, the industry that
they're in, not being exactly legal.
 
 Uh, and, uh, then number two, people just not taking
someone seriously, uh, simply because of, of what they are
involved in. Yeah. You know, um,
 
 uh, as you said, we, we've learned a lot about this and at
least according to the allegations that things are still
developing. Mm-hmm. It appears that this is Rex Heuermann’s modus
hop operandi.
 
 Yeah. He sort of targets the most vulnerable folks that he
can, in this case, alleged sex workers. In large part because
there is sort of a, a culture of silence, a around that scene.
Like you said, it, it's, it's illegal in most states. And, and,
um, you know, these folks don't often go to the police and say,
Hey, I was about to engage in sex work when an individual got
violent with me.
 
 Mm-hmm. You know, uh, historically these folks are subject
to violence and, and degradation and, and homicide, uh, and as
well as sexual assault and everything else. And so, um, you know,
it seems, uh, fitting that he allegedly selected these people as
his victims because he thought it would be less likely that he
would be caught.
 
 I mean, when you really look at it, and it's something that
I, I think a lot of us don't look at very closely. This is an
area that really is a playground for abusers and in horrible
people taking advantage of these women. It's not always just.
Somebody that's paying someone for sex and then they go on their
way.
 
 And that's the end of the day. Uh, it, it really seems to
be an outlet for this type of character. It really makes me
wonder, uh, if there were more things in place or more
protections in place, or even, I don't even know if I wanna say
it being legal or not, but in theory, if it were, uh, would this
sort of individual be allowed to flourish as long as he
did?
 
 You know,a good question because, um, like I said, a lot of
these folks don't want to come forward and report when they see
something problematic in, in a John mm-hmm. Who's trying to, to
pick them up because they, they themselves, the sex worker
doesn't wanna get caught. You know, perhaps if there were more
resources in place, more safe harbor laws, maybe, uh, something
that would, uh, insulate.
 
 These sex workers from criminal consequences if they came
forward with helpful tips to the police to try and stop these
predators. I just wonder if, if having something like that in
place could potentially limit or prevent th this sort of horrible
repeat tragedy that that's being alleged against Rex Homan, the
Long Island serial killer.
 
 What can be done, like speaking from your own expertise? Is
there any sort of protections? Let, let's say, A sex worker came
up to you and said, look, this was really weird, this encounter
that I had. I think someone should know about it. Or I wanna
press charges because I was abused or violated in some way, shape
or form.
 
 Can that be done? Is that ever done? And, and how would a
court look at that considering the nature of, of the relationship
between the abuser and the person doing the abuse? You know, I
wonder if it's almost, um, the sex worker industry analogous to
kind of the drug scene. Like, like here in Colorado for example,
um, you know, people when they're using drugs, they often don't
want to call the cops.
 
 Sure. And something is going wrong because they don't wanna
get in trouble. Uh, but here we have a law. That essentially says
if someone is overdosing through the use of drugs, even if you're
there doing it with them, yeah. You can call police to try and
help them and you're not gonna get charged with a crime.
 
 Mm-hmm. I'm just wondering if having some kind of
protection in place for the sex worker industry under similar
circumstances when they believe that a crime has happened or is
likely to happen. Mm-hmm. Uh, I wonder if having that in place
would, would, uh, Encourage more of these folks to speak out more
of these red flags, to become apparent to law enforcement and
investigations to begin sooner before these tragedies keep
recurring.
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