Ep. 137:"It's Only A Paper Moon" (DS9 S7E10) with Into The Unknown's Max Brooke and Michael Gernes

With what we're pretty sure is our longest episode of all time,
Ryan and Brady dive into this classic Deep Space Nine episode
with the help of Max Brooke and Michael Gernes, the designers of
the upcoming Star Trek miniatures game "Star Trek: Into the
Unknown." Max and Michael break down the analysis of Star Trek
metafiction, the logistics of holodeck food, and the long-game
characterization of DS9, but first, they sit for an extended
interview on their cool new game from WizKids, which debuts later
this year (and is set during the Dominion War).