Dante, cosmology, and a conversation at Rupert Sheldrake's 80th do

Bernard Carr is a leading cosmologist who worked with Stephen
Hawking and now investigates time, multidimensionality and
consciousness, amongst other things. 

Bernardo Kastrup cites him as at the vanguard of the great task
to integrate matter and mind.

So I was delighted to get the chance to ask Bernard about images
from Dante. 

We talked about relational cosmologies as advocated by Carlo
Rovelli, who has talked about being  inspired by Dante, and
whether alternative images from the Divine Comedy might
illuminate his own approaches, as well as our understanding.