FODI: The In-Between | 03 | Lee Vinsel & Tyson Yunkaporta | A gradual decline into disorder

Lee Vinsel and Tyson Yunkaporta speak with Ann Mossop about the
passing age, apocalypses, and the cyclical nature of eras. Their
conversation is anchored in language: both speak of systems,
entropy, the roles of maintainers or custodians, and the machines
and languages of capitalism. Tyson explains entropy by connecting
an incident of Aboriginal people spearing Dutchmen centuries ago
to the modern-day experiences of colonialism, and Lee speaks of
entropy as the natural breaking down of systems.


Lee Vinsel is an associate professor of Science, Technology, and
Society at Virginia Tech.


Tyson Yunkaporta is an Aboriginal scholar, founder of the
Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in
Melbourne.


Produced by The Festival of Dangerous Ideas, The Ethics Centre
and Audiocraft.