Why ChatGPT Can’t Tell Compelling Stories (Yet) w/ John Vervaeke and Shawn Coyne (#402)

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“What is it about Artificial Intelligence driving tech giants like
Elon Musk, Marc Andreessen, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, and Sam
Altman? Why are they racing to develop and own these thinking
machines while unsure of the harm they could cause us? Can we trust
nation-states and NGOs to use their totalitarian strategies when
they don’t truly understand the problems we face?” Here today to
discuss this with me are John Vervaeke and Shawn Coyne, two
extraordinarily bright minds in the field of artificial
intelligence.  John Vervaeke is a renowned philosopher and
cognitive scientist. He is an associate professor and award-winning
lecturer at the University of Toronto, teaching in the Department
of Psychology. His work and research are far-ranging, including
topics such as human intelligence, rationality, wisdom, and AI.
Shawn Coyne is a writer, editor, and publisher with over 30 years
of experience. He has analyzed, acquired, edited, written,
marketed, agented, or published 374 books, including dozens of
bestsellers in all genres, generating more than $150,000,000 in
revenue. John and Shawn recently published Mentoring the Machines,
a book in which they discuss the issues that others like to sweep
under the rug. In today's episode of Into the Impossible, we'll
tackle these issues with them! Tune in.  Key Takeaways:
00:00:00 Intro 00:01:31 Judging a book by its cover  00:08:20
Psychology, alignment, and embodiment  00:16:20 AI’s impact on
editing and publishing 00:20:39 Knowledge and wisdom  00:30:08
The true Turing test  00:37:05 Conscious machines 
00:44:26 AI’s impact on education  00:53:30 Tailored
audiobooks for kids  00:58:12 Promising intersections of AI
and psychology 01:04:04 Outro — Additional resources: Get one month
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