Leading by the SPIRIT of the Law or the LETTER of the Law | An Interview with Jason Hunt
This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally published in December
2019. Jason Hunt has a PhD in endocrine physiology and teaches
pre-med classes at Brigham Young University-Idaho. He has served as
a family ward bishop,
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This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally published in December
2019. Jason Hunt has a PhD in endocrine physiology and teaches
pre-med classes at Brigham Young University-Idaho. He has served as
a family ward bishop, a Young Single Adult ward bishop, and as
counselor in a Stake Presidency, but his most difficult calling was
as the primary pianist. Highlights 07:15 Culture and rules are not
doctrinal 09:20 Keyholder applications are different from personal
applications 11:00 Elder Bednar’s concept of applications:
Doctrines are statements. Principles are embedded in the doctrines
and tell us what we should do. They never change. Applications
change. 14:50 Keyholder applications hold true when the keyholder
is saying them and would apply to those who are within their
responsibility, and they do not extend beyond 18:10 Cultural norms
are applications that have extended beyond their boundaries 19:00
How you view these cultural norms depends on your personal moral
theory. The most common are: Consequential theorist: consequences
Obligation theorist: rules Divine theorist: what God has said
Egoist: personal priorities 25:00 The best leadership should be
able to move between these theories 27:30 When you understand these
moral frameworks, how different people respond to the culture makes
more sense. Cognitive development also applies. 30:30 Jason’s
experience considering the story of Noah 34:30 It’s important to be
open and talk about things, even if you don’t have the answers
36:30 Stephen R. Covey: Listen with the intent to understand, not
to answer 39:30 Pornography, brain addiction science, and the
bladder comparison. Identify the justifications. Ensure they trust
and are comfortable and willing to share. 44:00 The response
depends again on the personal moral theories of everyone involved
47:00 The Holy Ghost knows what needs to happen and we can be open
to that and understand that there can be different consequences for
different people 47:40 Have empathy for people with different moral
theories and respect them for their approach 49:00 The divine
command theorist must be doctrinally grounded or there can be
misapplication within the culture. Examples that happen in a YSA
ward. 53:20 Egoism: put the mask on first 55:30 When you are
working with a leader who is coming from a different moral
framework there will be friction and it requires greater empathy.
We have to learn to step into different quadrants and embrace the
differences of opinion 58:45 A mission is not a saving ordinance.
The temple is the culminating event with the saving ordinances and
that is where the focus needs to be. 1:00:10 Jason’s motorcycle
example compared to technology use: youth do not have the ability
to utilize their agency, so they need stages of responsibility
Links Read the TRANSCRIPT of this podcast Listen on YouTube Get
14-day access to the Core Leader Library The Leading Saints Podcast
has ranked in the top 20 Christianity podcasts in iTunes, gets over
500,000 listens each month, and has over 10 million total downloads
as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help latter-day
saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of
the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests
include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John
Bytheway, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Julie Beck, Brad
Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton,
Tad R. Callister, J. Devn Cornish, Dennis B. Neuenschwander,
Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair
Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, DeAnna
Murphy, Michael Goodman, Richard Ostler, Ganel-Lyn Condie, and many
more in over 500 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual
conferences, and live events related to callings such as the
bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth
leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young
adults, ministering,
2019. Jason Hunt has a PhD in endocrine physiology and teaches
pre-med classes at Brigham Young University-Idaho. He has served as
a family ward bishop, a Young Single Adult ward bishop, and as
counselor in a Stake Presidency, but his most difficult calling was
as the primary pianist. Highlights 07:15 Culture and rules are not
doctrinal 09:20 Keyholder applications are different from personal
applications 11:00 Elder Bednar’s concept of applications:
Doctrines are statements. Principles are embedded in the doctrines
and tell us what we should do. They never change. Applications
change. 14:50 Keyholder applications hold true when the keyholder
is saying them and would apply to those who are within their
responsibility, and they do not extend beyond 18:10 Cultural norms
are applications that have extended beyond their boundaries 19:00
How you view these cultural norms depends on your personal moral
theory. The most common are: Consequential theorist: consequences
Obligation theorist: rules Divine theorist: what God has said
Egoist: personal priorities 25:00 The best leadership should be
able to move between these theories 27:30 When you understand these
moral frameworks, how different people respond to the culture makes
more sense. Cognitive development also applies. 30:30 Jason’s
experience considering the story of Noah 34:30 It’s important to be
open and talk about things, even if you don’t have the answers
36:30 Stephen R. Covey: Listen with the intent to understand, not
to answer 39:30 Pornography, brain addiction science, and the
bladder comparison. Identify the justifications. Ensure they trust
and are comfortable and willing to share. 44:00 The response
depends again on the personal moral theories of everyone involved
47:00 The Holy Ghost knows what needs to happen and we can be open
to that and understand that there can be different consequences for
different people 47:40 Have empathy for people with different moral
theories and respect them for their approach 49:00 The divine
command theorist must be doctrinally grounded or there can be
misapplication within the culture. Examples that happen in a YSA
ward. 53:20 Egoism: put the mask on first 55:30 When you are
working with a leader who is coming from a different moral
framework there will be friction and it requires greater empathy.
We have to learn to step into different quadrants and embrace the
differences of opinion 58:45 A mission is not a saving ordinance.
The temple is the culminating event with the saving ordinances and
that is where the focus needs to be. 1:00:10 Jason’s motorcycle
example compared to technology use: youth do not have the ability
to utilize their agency, so they need stages of responsibility
Links Read the TRANSCRIPT of this podcast Listen on YouTube Get
14-day access to the Core Leader Library The Leading Saints Podcast
has ranked in the top 20 Christianity podcasts in iTunes, gets over
500,000 listens each month, and has over 10 million total downloads
as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help latter-day
saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of
the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests
include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John
Bytheway, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Julie Beck, Brad
Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton,
Tad R. Callister, J. Devn Cornish, Dennis B. Neuenschwander,
Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair
Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, DeAnna
Murphy, Michael Goodman, Richard Ostler, Ganel-Lyn Condie, and many
more in over 500 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual
conferences, and live events related to callings such as the
bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth
leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young
adults, ministering,
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