Part 2: The Research Behind Becoming Christlike | An Interview with Ryan Gottfredson

Ryan Gottfredson, Ph.D., is a cutting-edge leadership development
author, researcher, and consultant. He helps organizations
vertically develop their leaders primarily through a focus on
mindsets. He is also an associate leadership professor at the
College of Business and Economics at California State
University-Fullerton. He holds a Ph.D. in Organizational Behavior
and Human Resources from Indiana University, and a B.A. from
Brigham Young University. As a consultant, he works with
organizations to develop their leaders and improve their culture.
Ryan is the author of The Elevated Leader and Success Mindsets. He
has written multiple articles for Leading Saints, presented at a
live event about mindsets, and is a repeat podcast guest. As Ryan
reviewed leadership research, he found it primarily answered one
question: “What do leaders need to do to be effective?” The focus
of his work has been on “What do leaders need to be to be
effective?” This podcast is a follow-up to a previous discussion
about vertical development as individuals and leaders in the
church. Listen to Part 1 here. Highlights 02:10 Introduction and
Ryan talks about the book that he recently released 04:40 Focus on
vertical development not only works in the office but within the
family 06:15 Ryan breaks down vertical development and how it's
different from horizontal development 09:00 Retreats are to help
focus on our own character development or vertical development.
It’s so much more than just gaining more knowledge. 13:00
Researchers have found that adults can develop but most don’t 16:00
We force our youth to get into uncomfortable situations where they
can learn and grow. However, as adults we refuse to do things that
are uncomfortable. 18:00 A heat experience. They are externally or
internally driven. These are experiences that cause us to change.
19:30 Can we apply this idea of vertical development in our church
meetings? 23:00 A necessary prerequisite for vertical development
is vulnerability. So as church leaders it's important to be
vulnerable and create a space for others to be vulnerable too.
25:20 Ryan shares some of his past trauma and what he has learned
from it in his vertical development journey. He applies it to
church leaders. 30:20 What makes us, as leaders? 32:40 Experiences
as a child can affect us as adults and how we lead. Even if you
didn’t have dramatic trauma in your past, everyone has some sort of
trauma. 33:40 Kurt shares his personal experience 36:15 Look into
your past. What has happened to you? What type of leadership have
you experienced? What was your testimony development like? How are
all these things impacting or impeding your vertical leadership
development? 36:50 Ryan gives examples of how past trauma affects
current leadership 41:30 The journey to becoming a more positive
influence, a better leader, and more like our Savior is
foundationally a healing journey 45:00 We need to stop comparing
our pain and trauma. Everyone’s pain matters. 51:00 It can be
helpful to look into the history of trauma in your family 54:15
Past trauma affects how we parent and connect with others 58:00
Less vertically developed leaders focus on results and outcomes.
The best leaders focus on the leading indicators, not the lagging
indicators. 1:00:00 Watching other people go through vertical
development 1:06:20 Vertical development is a focus on elevating
our being and not just focusing on our doing 1:08:40 The first step
is self awareness. Take the time to learn more about vertical
mindsets. Once we become self aware and learn we can take action.
1:14:00 Final encouragement that Ryan has for leaders Links Part 1:
The Research Behind Becoming Christlike | An Interview with Ryan
Gottfredson Success Mindsets: Your Keys to Unlocking Greater
Success in Your Life, Work, & Leadership The Elevated Leader:
Level Up Your Leadership Through Vertical Development
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