Ministering to Those Who Seem Hopeless | An Interview with Brent Daines and Jason Coombs

This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally ran in December 2019.
Jason Coombs is a Utah native and lives in the Boise, Idaho, area
with his wife and 7-year-old twins. They own a chain of substance
use disorder treatment centers called Brick House Recovery. Kurt
previously interviewed Jason as part of the Liberating Saints
Virtual Conference, and for the upcoming Recovering Saints Virtual
Conference. Brent Daines was Jason’s bishop from 2006 to 2011.
Brent now serves as a stake president, lives in Centerville, Utah,
and is the father of seven incredible children and 12 beautiful
grandchildren. He is currently the CEO of RLL Insurance and loves
to flyfish, ski, and golf in his spare time. Kurt Francom, Brent
Daines, Jason Coombs Highlights 06:30 Jason’s story started with an
auto accident 07:45 Jason is the grandson of President James E.
Faust, and at the time attended church weekly but wasn’t living
close to the Spirit. Went to lunch with a friend from work who
connected him to a doctor prescribing opioids 12:30 Ignored the
warnings in his head but justified his actions and saw the doctor
16:00 The physician was indicted for fraud five months later,
sending 139 addicted patients to the street for drugs 22:00 Didn’t
believe he had a problem, but had merely been “found out”; marriage
failed and was homeless and living in a very dark place 24:30
Incarcerated and in a drug court program but couldn’t stop using
25:25 Brent received a phone call from Jason’s ex-wife and went to
see him in jail 28:15 Brent had been prepared by his experience
with his brother and was able to see Jason as Christ sees him 32:10
There will be a few people who are greatly affected by you during
your time serving as a church leader 36:00 Called President Faust
at Jason’s request and learned more about coming to this from a
place of love 38:30 Weekly visits from Brent led to hope for Jason,
but he was still not ready to commit to change for four years after
being released from jail. Brent would still appear at critical
points in Jason’s life. 42:00 Brent could still feel Heavenly
Father’s love for Jason, even though it seemed his actions were not
helping 44:10 Jason made the decision to change after his son was
born and in intensive care, but still went through rehab five times
before he was able to complete the 12 steps and fully change 47:45
Made a final confession to Bishop Daines, in spite of his fears
about judgment and excommunication 50:30 Immersed himself in
friendship with others who were actively recovering, made good
decisions, and changed his perspective on church discipline; Brent
was his advocate through all of this 55:50 The challenge of
self-forgiveness and recognizing Jesus Christ as your personal
Savior Links Unhooked: How to Help an Addicted Loved One Recover,
by Jason Coombs Brick House Recovery Recovering Saints Virtual
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