Is There a Correlation Between Losing Faith and Moving? | An Interview with Ryan Gottfredson

Ryan Gottfredson, Ph.D. is a cutting-edge leadership development
author, researcher, and consultant. He helps organizations
vertically develop their leaders primarily through a focus on
mindsets. Ryan is the Wall Street Journal and USA Today
best-selling author of Success Mindsets: The Key to Unlocking
Greater Success in Your Life, Work, & Leadership and The
Elevated Leader: Leveling Up Your Leadership Through Vertical
Development. He is also a leadership professor at the College of
Business and Economics at California State University-Fullerton.
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access to the Core Leader Library Highlights 2:00 Kurt introduces
Ryan, his background, profession, and books. 4:40 A lot of people
step away from the church and do it after a move. They don’t do it
in front of people they know. The ward they were in had no idea
they left the church. 11:40 How as leaders can we make sure there
is life in our congregations? Is there a way to see when people are
disengaging and will be leaving soon? Assume there is a problem in
your ward even if you can’t see one. 13:40 How can we create a
community where people can voice their doubts and concerns? Our
church culture can get in the way of people asking questions and
sharing their doubts. Our typical meetings don’t leave much room to
have these types of discussions. 16:00 Bishops should just assume
there are people in their ward that are struggling with their
faith. Creating space apart from our regular meetings to have
conversations about doubts and concerns. 19:00 It can be difficult
to create a community at church that is open because there are
different kinds of members with different perspectives. Some
members might get up to give a talk and ruffle a few feathers.
However, we have to create opportunities for everyone to be heard
and feel like they belong. 21:30 Focusing on numbers isn’t bad but
it's misguided. The more that leaders focus on numbers and outcomes
the more they resist changing things for the future. Instead of
focusing on results they should focus on how much life there is in
the system. 24:30 Is your ward/stake growing in life and optimism
or is it slowly dying? Are your church meetings lacking? Are the
activities and church meetings something people actually want to
attend and are excited about? 28:30 While you might love your ward,
you can’t project your experience on someone else. There are
probably people in your ward that don’t like it or feel like they
don’t belong. 30:45 Identifying the slow-dying testimony. What do
we do when we see people stepping back? Normally those that are
stepping away feel like they don’t have a voice and don’t belong.
37:15 We have ministering but we haven’t learned to turn the key
on. Is the engine even on in your ward? 39:10 We have a lot of
"managers" but not a lot of leaders. Managers make sure that things
run smoothly but leaders step out of their comfort zones and create
change and new culture. 43:45 Questions to ask in your own ward
council: Is there life in your ward? Does healing occur here? Does
change occur here? 45:30 Ryan’s final encouragement and counsel to
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