Women in Council Meetings | An Interview with Wendy Ulrich

This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally ran in July 2019.
Wendy Ulrich is a psychologist, educator, and writer. She holds a
PhD in Education and Psychology from the University of Michigan and
an MBA from the University of California, Los Angeles. A former
guest on the podcast, Wendy is the founder of Sixteen Stones Center
for Growth and has been a practicing psychologist for over 25
years. She is a former president of the Association of Mormon
Counselors and Psychotherapists and a visiting professor at Brigham
Young University. Wendy and her husband Dave Ulrich presided over
the Canada Montreal Mission and have three children and eight
grandchildren. Links Live Up to Our Privileges: Women, Power, and
Priesthood The Why of Your Calling | An Interview with Wendy Ulrich
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the Core Leader Library Highlights 00:48 Wendy’s background as a
psychologist 01:21 Her book Live Up to Our Privileges discusses
“What does it really mean for women to have priesthood power”? How
do we get it in our lives and use it effectively? 03:49 How can
leaders better understand the experience of women in the Church?
What can Wendy share about the female experience of feeling
dismissed at church? 04:47 The work of women is often invisible and
misunderstood. 05:05 Women and men have different styles of
communication. Women may find being talked over (a male
communication pattern) to be dismissive. 06:21 Women can feel
dismissed by the structure of the Church or even the text of the
scriptures. 07:02 The book is structured after the organization of
priesthood offices. Why? 07:44 The work of women is also captured
in the work of priesthood offices. 08:39 In many cases women do
more of the work of priesthood offices during the natural course of
their lives than men. 09:12 Christ was not a priest. He did not
hold the priesthood of his day. 09:50 Women who may not see
themselves as holding priesthood may find something to learn from
the Savior’s example and authority. 10:39 Women can say I am doing
what I’m doing because of the authority I’ve been given in my
calling, my temple endowment, my home, my assignments … I have been
given authority. 11:17 We sometimes project secular perspectives on
women and the priesthood and fairness. What can we understand about
this topic? 12:49 We are not going to be the same or have the same
opportunities. 13:33 Wendy believes Church doctrine emphasizes the
reason we are here on this earth is to become empowered with the
power that God has. We believe the most important thing God is
trying to do is to create eternal relationships. 14:45 What women
do and goes unseen may be just as important as what men do in the
eternal scheme of things. Even in secular society family is
essential, and women are the key “resource” for keeping society
functioning 17:17 The Lord’s priority is raising the next
generation of gods. 17:20 We think God is someone who gives power
away. We believe he wants to empower us to be joint heirs—to give
us all He has. 18:59 At times it does seem like some roles are
inflated. Kurt shares his experience while all three of his
brothers were serving as bishops and the difference in attention
his sister received, who was serving as a Primary President at the
time. As we consider this, women will have less of that experience
of being dismissed. 20:40 Chapter 8: Governing with Power and
Compassion. How to rise to power in organizations. 22:00 Kachner’s
research shows how people get into power, but once they get into
power people actually lose the skills that got them there. They
become more self-serving, less empathic. They are less likely to
listen to others, less able to read other’s emotional states. 23:40
Research shows teams with women are more effective because women
naturally have ski...