Digital Deception: What Lies Ahead with Perry Carpenter

Creating habits of healthy skepticism when receiving texts or
emails can prevent you from clicking on phishing links. Everybody
is vulnerable online, especially when distracted or in a hurry.
But cultivating critical thinking and self-awareness can enhance
protection against manipulation.


Today’s guest is Perry Carpenter. Perry is an award-winning
author, podcaster, and speaker with over two decades in
cybersecurity, focusing on how cyber criminals exploit human
behavior. As the Chief Human Risk Management Strategist at
KnowBe4, Perry helps build robust, human-centric defenses against
social engineering-based threats. His latest book FAIK: A
Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes,
Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions, tackles AI’s role in
deception.
Show Notes:

[1:02] - Perry shares his background and what his career has
entailed.

[4:01] - Regardless of how much people say, spend, or do on
security-related issues, the people side of things is hard to
control.

[5:25] - Perry has always been interested in deception and
misdirection.

[6:59] - Even as a security professional, Perry has
experienced enough distraction to click a phishing email.

[9:43] - It is easier to be distracted and not follow usual
healthy security habits than being on a computer.

[12:24] - We fall into habits easily, especially when the
behavior is simple and easy.

[16:00] - Technology based deception is more available to
anybody than in any other time in history.

[18:10] - Security professionals and often pushed in the
roles of giving advice.

[19:40] - Reflection questions like “Why is this in front of
me?” might prevent someone from falling victim to a scam.

[26:58] - Everybody is vulnerable. Even though cybersecurity
professionals know more on the topic than some others, it is
still possible for them as well.

[30:40] - Pig butchering and crypto scammers sometimes
actually do send money back as a tactic to earn trust and
increase hope.

[34:42] - We have to have a healthy skepticism of the
information environment that we live in.

[36:39] - There are very few situations in life where you
won’t benefit from slowing down and thinking things through.

[38:41] - Perry suggests a family activity that will help
boost understanding of pressure tactics.

[40:17] - The narratives or tells that work for someone might
raise a red flag to others.

[43:25] - As a society, we’ve gotten to a point where we
don’t like to introspect.

[45:59] - Perry discusses the content of his most recent book
and how it is information without the “easy way out”.



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FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes,
Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions by Perry Carpenter

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