Revelation Church Recap & The Problems with Dispensationalism (The Church part 12)
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Why we are not dispensational: • Dispensationalism
promotes escapism which hinders discipleship in the present because
the goal is to escape the earth. If Christ’s goal is to be his body
on earth why would he want us to escape it and if he is the pattern
and his pattern was suffering leading to victory then the
dispensational interpretation is opposite of the pattern of Christ.
If a true disciple looks like Jesus then we are called to endure to
the end not escape, this actually builds our faith and
discipleship. • Staunch Dispensationalists see the 7
churches as ages from the ascension up till the “GREAT TRIB” and
this stunts the application of Jesus’ message to these churches
because they apply them to other “ages” and cannot see the
application (not written to us, but written for us). To give the
benefit to Dispensationalists some do see the pastoral applications
of the churches (The "things that are”). •
Dispensationalists interpretations of the 144,000 as Jews in the
“Great Trib” screws up much of the rest of the letter. If they
can’t see this as what John “sees” in Rev 7 (The interpretation of
144000) as all tribes, tongues, and nations (the church) who
worship the lamb and follow him wherever he goes (Rev 15) and
rather see it as some end times jewish army with the church
“raptured” out of the picture it can really screw up the mission of
the church in following the lamb in suffering and service because
that is only reserved for the end times jews (The same that are
called a synagogue of Satan in Smyrna?). • A major thrust is
the futurist nosterdomist misinterpretation of what prophecy Is,
but we addressed this in part in our intro episode. If it’s all
about predicting the future then it has no bearing on the present
except to just “watch” for it. It requires not action on the part
of the church.
promotes escapism which hinders discipleship in the present because
the goal is to escape the earth. If Christ’s goal is to be his body
on earth why would he want us to escape it and if he is the pattern
and his pattern was suffering leading to victory then the
dispensational interpretation is opposite of the pattern of Christ.
If a true disciple looks like Jesus then we are called to endure to
the end not escape, this actually builds our faith and
discipleship. • Staunch Dispensationalists see the 7
churches as ages from the ascension up till the “GREAT TRIB” and
this stunts the application of Jesus’ message to these churches
because they apply them to other “ages” and cannot see the
application (not written to us, but written for us). To give the
benefit to Dispensationalists some do see the pastoral applications
of the churches (The "things that are”). •
Dispensationalists interpretations of the 144,000 as Jews in the
“Great Trib” screws up much of the rest of the letter. If they
can’t see this as what John “sees” in Rev 7 (The interpretation of
144000) as all tribes, tongues, and nations (the church) who
worship the lamb and follow him wherever he goes (Rev 15) and
rather see it as some end times jewish army with the church
“raptured” out of the picture it can really screw up the mission of
the church in following the lamb in suffering and service because
that is only reserved for the end times jews (The same that are
called a synagogue of Satan in Smyrna?). • A major thrust is
the futurist nosterdomist misinterpretation of what prophecy Is,
but we addressed this in part in our intro episode. If it’s all
about predicting the future then it has no bearing on the present
except to just “watch” for it. It requires not action on the part
of the church.
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