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Response to John Stossel on Abortion | Kerry Baldwin and Doug
Stuart
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John Stossel on abortion
For the past 50 years, the abortion debate has been a polarized
issue with common ground on either side. This polarization has
created a perfect storm that suggests a deeply divided country.
A single data point gets twisted by both sides. 61% of Americans
believe 1st trimester abortion (up to 13 weeks) should be legal.
The pro-choice side twists this to say, "most Americans are
support abortion rights." The pro-life side twists the same data
point to say, "most Americans support restrictions on abortion."
I don't see it this way. I think most Americans exist in a gray
middle. They're the ones who say, "I'm pro-choice, but …" or I'm
pro-life, but …". Most Americans intuitively recognize abortion
is wrapped up in tangential issues. So, abortion is a concession,
not an ideal, in the mind of most. Failure to imagine a
life-affirming alternative to the status quo leads to this
concession.
I was recently invited to be a guest on John Stossel's show to
discuss abortion, and was joined by Avens O'Brien; a pro-choice
libertarian of feminists for liberty.
I have a great deal of respect for John Stossel and what he does.
And I appreciate the opportunity to be featured on his show and
alongside O'brien.
However, I think Stossel missed an opportunity. I hold that
libertarianism is a true alternative to the polarized paradigm
we've been stuck in.
In this episode, I sat down with Doug Stuart of the Libertarian
Christian Institute to discuss some important elements of the
interview with Stossel that didn't make it into the final edit.
Join me, Kerry Baldwin, as we Dare to Think about libertarianism
changes the abortion debate.
Main Points of Discussion
01:52 Background to John Stossel episode
07:02 John Stossel on Abortion in full
12:42 Opening commentary
14:03 Where do we agree?
15:09 The problem of enforcement and drug bans
16:51 A person exists inside another person
19:02 My hope and the missed opportunity
22:34 Avens O'Brien's nuances
24:15 Initial reactions to Dobbs v Jackson
28:41 Why even Christian women are worried about the overturn of
Roe v Wade
31:08 Militant anti-abortion abolitionists are supporting Joe
Biden's failed criminal justice legacy
32:16 Women justified in the felt threat from the state
34:01 Pro-lifers "work not done yet" - what does this mean?
35:27 What I'd like to see libertarians do moving forward
Resource Links
Original episode of John Stossel on Abortion
Avens O'Brien, Feminists for Liberty
Restorative Justice
Libertarian Party Removes Abortion Plank from Platform
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John Stossel on abortion
For the past 50 years, the abortion debate has been a polarized
issue with common ground on either side. This polarization has
created a perfect storm that suggests a deeply divided country.
A single data point gets twisted by both sides. 61% of Americans
believe 1st trimester abortion (up to 13 weeks) should be legal.
The pro-choice side twists this to say, "most Americans are
support abortion rights." The pro-life side twists the same data
point to say, "most Americans support restrictions on abortion."
I don't see it this way. I think most Americans exist in a gray
middle. They're the ones who say, "I'm pro-choice, but …" or I'm
pro-life, but …". Most Americans intuitively recognize abortion
is wrapped up in tangential issues. So, abortion is a concession,
not an ideal, in the mind of most. Failure to imagine a
life-affirming alternative to the status quo leads to this
concession.
I was recently invited to be a guest on John Stossel's show to
discuss abortion, and was joined by Avens O'Brien; a pro-choice
libertarian of feminists for liberty.
I have a great deal of respect for John Stossel and what he does.
And I appreciate the opportunity to be featured on his show and
alongside O'brien.
However, I think Stossel missed an opportunity. I hold that
libertarianism is a true alternative to the polarized paradigm
we've been stuck in.
In this episode, I sat down with Doug Stuart of the Libertarian
Christian Institute to discuss some important elements of the
interview with Stossel that didn't make it into the final edit.
Join me, Kerry Baldwin, as we Dare to Think about libertarianism
changes the abortion debate.
Main Points of Discussion
01:52 Background to John Stossel episode
07:02 John Stossel on Abortion in full
12:42 Opening commentary
14:03 Where do we agree?
15:09 The problem of enforcement and drug bans
16:51 A person exists inside another person
19:02 My hope and the missed opportunity
22:34 Avens O'Brien's nuances
24:15 Initial reactions to Dobbs v Jackson
28:41 Why even Christian women are worried about the overturn of
Roe v Wade
31:08 Militant anti-abortion abolitionists are supporting Joe
Biden's failed criminal justice legacy
32:16 Women justified in the felt threat from the state
34:01 Pro-lifers "work not done yet" - what does this mean?
35:27 What I'd like to see libertarians do moving forward
Resource Links
Original episode of John Stossel on Abortion
Avens O'Brien, Feminists for Liberty
Restorative Justice
Libertarian Party Removes Abortion Plank from Platform
Become a Monthly Member
https://mereliberty.com/membership?utm_source=show+notes&utm_medium=link&utm_id=DTT
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