Mayor Betsy Hodges on surviving, governing and escaping to Tatooine

Mayor Betsy Hodges may be the former mayor of Minneapolis and now
Washington, D.C., but she's really a citizen of Tatooine. In this
special interview episode, the progressive activist and mayor joins
Beltway Banthas to share how Star Wars saved her life (The Mary
Sue). Beyond her personal story, which is a remarkable one, Stephen
Kent and Betsy Hodges trace how Star Wars explains redemption and
why that matters for the world we live in.