Episode #04: The Dark Side of "Conscious Sexuality" with Michael Ellsberg

In this episode, Michael Ellsberg interviewed Michaela for his
podcast recently: "I've interviewed famous billionaires. I've
interviewed rock stars. I've interviewed NYT-bestselling authors.
And yet, of all the interviews I've done, the one I'm most excited
about is the one I'm sharing with you now. Michaela Boehm is in my
opinion the most advanced, master teacher on sacred sexuality
currently teaching. For 13 years, she traveled and co-taught with
David Deida, author of "The Way of the Superior Man." Now she has
branched out to share her own unique blend of wisdom, synthesized
from her 22 years of counseling practice, along with her training
and experience as a lineage holder in a tantric tradition of
Kashmiri Shivaism. Her private clients include Oscar-winning
actors, producers, writers, and multiple Grammy-winning
musicians--and now she's sharing her wisdom with us. As I love to
do, in this interview we dove right into the nitty-gritty: The Dark
Side of "Conscious Sexuality." I'm a student of conscious
sexuality---but every scene and every philosophy has its own shadow
side. What is the shadow side of the "sacred sexuality" scene? In
this wide-ranging, no-holds-barred interview, we dive into the
conversations no one else is having, and the things no one else is
saying, around this controversial topic." Some of the topics we
cover include: 2:30 - The true meaning of the "shadow side"- as
opposed to how it is usually used in personal development circles
6:55 - Why "sacred sexuality" should not be used as a tool for
healing 12:46 - The most important factor for healing old sexual
wounding 23:00 - How so much spiritual practice ends up being a
futile quest to gain love or approval from "daddy" or "mommy" in
our minds - and what to focus on instead 26:11 - How so many
teachers or "gurus" of spirituality and sexuality use scarcity and
subtle shaming to keep students hooked on constant upsells. 29:40 -
Why the focus on "commitments" and "accountability" in Men's Groups
is misguided and ineffective, and what Men's Groups should be
focusing on instead 37:25 - How Women's Groups often end up
perpetuating the same shaming of women that the women are going
into the groups to avoid, and what--in Michaela's opinion--Women's
Groups should be focusing on instead 40:08 - The rise of the
"Stepford Dakinis" 42:33 - Many women ask "Where are all the good
men?" - and why asking this question is barking up the wrong tree.
(The discussion we get into for the next 15 minutes is hands-down
the most controversial segment of an interview I've ever done,
watch out!) 57:36 - How can independent, strong-minded women (who
are into men) find the man they want? 1:01:47 - How can a woman who
wants the experience of surrender with a man, decide which man she
can trust? 1:09:55 - How polyamory often bogs down and leads to "a
lot more discussing than fucking" 1:16:03 - Why the tantra worlds
and BDSM/kink worlds often judge each other, and how they can be
integrated 1:22:15 - The single best first step for opening to the
divine in sexuality ... For instant access courses, events, and
teacher training: www.michaelaboehm.com To order Michaela's book
"The Wild Woman's Way": https://amzn.to/3FJEBEa Music by Steve
James: https://www.guruviking.com/ Find out more about Michael
Ellsberg here: www.ellsberg.com