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  4. What We Still Get Wrong About Happiness (Live at Dartmouth)
In this special live episode, Dr. Laurie takes the stage at
Dartmouth College for a conversation with happiness historian
Darrin McMahon.

Together, they break down some of the biggest misconceptions
about happiness in modern life, discuss the most effective (and
often counterintuitive) ways to improve our wellbeing, and
explore how smartphones, AI, and other new technologies may shape
happiness in the years ahead.

Experts Mentioned: 

Darrin McMahon, Professor of History at Dartmouth College

Martin Seligman, Professor of Psychology and Director of the
Positive Psychology Center at the University of Pennsylvania

Lorraine Siggins, Director Emeritus of Mental Health and
Counseling for Students at Yale Health

Ashley Whillans, Associate Professor of Business
Administration at Harvard Business School

Sonja Lyubomirsky, Professor of Psychology at the University
of California, Riverside

Carey Morewedge, Chair of the Marketing Department at Boston
University’s Questrom School of Business

Gabriele Oettingen, Professor of Psychology at New York
University and the University of Hamburg

David Blanchflower, Professor of Economics at Dartmouth
College

Jean Twenge, Professor of Psychology at San Diego State
University

Jonathan Haidt, Professor of Ethical Leadership and Professor
of Business & Society at New York University Stern School of
Business

Elizabeth Dunn, Professor of Psychology at the University of
British Columbia

Manoush Zomorodi, journalist, podcast host, and author

Robert Putnam, Professor Emeritus of Public Policy at Harvard
University

Kostadin Kushlev, Associate Professor of Psychology at
Georgetown University

Catherine Price, journalist and author 

Michael Inzlicht, Professor of Psychology at the University
of Toronto, with a cross-appointment in the Rotman School of
Management

Adam Smith, Scottish economist and philosopher

Erzo Luttmer, Professor of Economics at Dartmouth College

Jan-Emmanuel De Neve, Professor of Economics and Behavioural
Science and Director of the Wellbeing Research Centre at the
University of Oxford

Resources Mentioned: 

The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex, by
Charles Darwin (1871)

“High Income Improves Evaluation of Life but Not Emotional
Well-Being,” by Daniel Kahneman and Angus Deaton (Proceedings of
the National Academy of Sciences, 2010)

“Income and Emotional Well-Being: A Conflict Resolved,” by
Matthew Killingsworth, Daniel Kahneman, and Barbra Mellers

Time Smart: How to Reclaim Your Time and Live a Happier Life,
by Ashley Whillans (2020)

The How of Happiness: A New Approach to Getting the Life You
Want, by Sonja Lyubomirsky (2007)

The Happiness Hypothesis: Finding Modern Truth in Ancient
Wisdom, by Jonathan Haidt (2006)

“Thought for Food: Imagined Consumption Reduces Actual
Consumption,” by Carey K Morewedge, Young Eun Huh, and Joachim
Vosgerau (Science, 2010)

Rethinking Positive Thinking: Inside the New Science of
Motivation, by Gabriele Oettingen (2014)

“Declining Life Satisfaction and Happiness Among Young Adults
in Six English-Speaking Countries,” by Jean Twenge and David
Blanchflower (NBER Working Paper Series, 2025)

“Smartphones Reduce Smiles Between Strangers,” by Kostadin
Kushlev, John Hunter, Jason Proulx, Sarah Pressman, and Elizabeth
Dunn (Computers in Human Behavior, 2019)

Body Electric: The Hidden Health Costs of the Digital Age and
New Science to Reclaim Your Well-Being, by Manoush Zomorodi
(2026)

Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American
Community, by Robert Putnam (2000)

Four Days a Week: The Life-Changing Solution for Reducing
Employee Stress, Improving Well-Being, and Working Smarter, by
Juliet Schor (2025)

“Do Happy People Care About Society’s Problems?,” by Kostadin
Kushlev, Danielle M. Drummond, Samantha J. Heintzelman, and Ed
Diener (The Journal of Positive Psychology, 2019)

“When Less Is More: Counterfactual Thinking and Satisfaction
Among Olympic Medalists,” by Victoria Husted Medvec, Scott Madey,
and Thomas Gilovich (Journal of Personality and Social
Psychology, 1995)

The Theory of Moral Sentiments, by Adam Smith (1759)

“Neighbors as Negatives: Relative Earnings and Well-Being,”
by Erzo Luttmer (The Quarterly Journal of Economics, 2005)

How to Break Up With Your Phone: The 30-Day Plan to Take Back
Your Life, by Catherine Price (2018)

“How Does Turning to AI for Companionship Predict Loneliness
and Vice Versa?”, by Dunigan Folk and Elizabeth Dunn
(Psychological Science, 2026)

“Effort Feels Meaningful,” by Michael Inzlicht and Aidan
Campbell (Trends in Cognitive Sciences, 2022)

Why Workplace Wellbeing Matters: The Science Behind Employee
Happiness and Organizational Performance, by Jan-Emmanuel De Neve
and George Ward (2025)

“Alysa Liu: ‘If I Didn’t Hit Rock Bottom, I Could Not Have
Gone Up’,” by Alex Morris (Rolling Stone, 2026)

Related Episodes: 

“Why the ‘Pursuit of Happiness’ Is a Bad Idea”

“What Screen Time Is Really Doing to Your Body with Manoush
Zomorodi”

“What is Social Media Doing to Kids? with Dr. Jean Twenge”

“Take a Three-Day Weekend Without Losing Any Pay (with Juliet
Schor)”

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