When we’re struggling to reach a goal, most of us assume the
answer is to buckle down and try harder. But what if all that
white-knuckling is actually making things more difficult than
they need to be?
Dr. Laurie speaks with psychologist Angela Duckworth, best known
for her groundbreaking work on grit, about a surprising new
approach to achievement. In her new book, Situated: Find the
People and Places That Bring Out Your Best, Angela explains why
changing what’s around us can sometimes be more effective than
trying to change ourselves.
Experts Mentioned:
Angela Duckworth, Professor of Psychology at the University
of Pennsylvania
Lee Ross, Professor of Psychology at Stanford
University
Richard Nisbett, Professor Emeritus of Psychology at the
University of Michigan
James Gross, Professor of Psychology at Stanford
University
Adrian Ward, Associate Professor of Marketing at University
of Texas at Austin
Joseph Henrich, Professor of Biological Anthropology and
Professor of Human Evolutionary Biology at Harvard University
Bob Bowman, Director of Swimming and Diving and Head Men’s
Coach at University of Texas at Austin
Martin Seligman, Professor of Psychology at the University of
Pennsylvania
Anders Ericsson, Professor of Psychology at Florida State
University
Walter Mischel, Professor Emeritus of Psychology at Columbia
University
Reinhold Niebuhr, Protestant theologian
Viktor Frankl, Austrian psychiatrist and neurologist
Resources Mentioned:
Situated: Find the People and Places That Bring Out Your
Best, by Angela Duckworth (2026)
Grit: The Power and Passion of Perseverance, by Angela
Duckworth (2016)
The Person and the Situation: Perspectives on Social
Psychology, by Lee Ross and Richard Nisbett (1991)
Frog and Toad Together, by Arnold Lobel (1972)
Man's Search for Meaning, by Viktor Frankl (1946)
“The Serenity Prayer,” by Reinhold Niebuhr
The Art of War, by Sun Tzu
The Golden Rules: 10 Steps to World-Class Excellence in Your
Life and Work, by Bob Bowman (2016)
“A Stitch in Time: Strategic Self-Control in High School and
College Students,” by Angela Duckworth, Rachel White, Alyssa
Matteucci, Annie Shearer, and James Gross (Journal of Educational
Psychology, 2016)
“Self-Control and Academic Achievement,” by Angela Duckworth,
Jamie Taxer, Lauren Eskreis-Winkler, Brian Galla, and James Gross
(Annual Review of Psychology, 2019)
“Self-control and SAT outcomes: Evidence from two national
field studies,” by Chayce Baldwin, Kyla Haimovitz, Priya Shankar,
Robert Gallop, David Yeager, James Gross, and Angela Duckworth
(PLoS One, 2022)
“Situational Strategies for Self-Control,” by Angela
Duckworth, Tamar Szabó Gendler, and James Gross (Perspectives on
Psychological Science, 2016)
“Brain Drain: The Mere Presence of One's Own Smartphone
Reduces Available Cognitive Capacity,” by Adrian Ward, Kristen
Duke, Ayelet Gneezy, and Maarten Bos. (Journal of the Association
for Consumer Research, 2017)
“A 2-Phase Labeling and Choice Architecture Intervention to
Improve Healthy Food and Beverage Choices,” by Anne N Thorndike,
Lillian Sonnenberg, Jason Riis, Susan Barraclough, and Douglas E
Levy (American Journal of Public Health, 2012)
“Innovation in the collective brain,” by Michael Muthukrishna
and Joseph Henrich (Philosophical Transactions of the Royal
Society B, 2016)
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