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What if the secret to scaling your business isn't working harder —
but attracting the right people to your team? In this episode of
The Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins shares a powerful solo
session originally recorded for Your Property Podcast with host
Michelle Kerns. Paul unpacks exactly who you need on your team at
each stage of growth — and why the next level of success you're
chasing is usually just one person away. Drawing on 20 years of
coaching experience and insights from working with over 550
companies, Paul reveals the three fundamental things that separate
six-figure earners from seven-figure business owners: knowledge,
skills, and network. This conversation goes deep into how to
identify the right people for your business model, when to hire
versus when to outsource, how to use AI and technology to scale
faster with fewer people, and why building your network before you
need it is one of the most valuable investments you'll ever make.
Paul also shares the exact recruitment formula he uses with clients
to ensure every hire pays for itself — and how to avoid the costly
mistake of trying to do everything yourself. This episode is
essential listening for founders and CEOs who want to stop being
the bottleneck in their business, build a high-performing team
around them, and scale with structure and confidence in 2025. Key
Takeaways The three things standing between you and your next
income level: knowledge, skills, and network Why the next level of
success is usually one person away — and how to find them The
difference between internal and external teams — and when to use
each Paul's recruitment formula: how to ensure every hire pays for
itself within three months Why buying skills is often faster than
learning them yourself How to use team and tech together to scale
faster with fewer people The power of networking: why connecting
with five people a day can generate six figures a year How to
identify which roles to hire for first based on friction and energy
drain Why building your network before you need it is a strategic
superpower The one-minute pitch formula that opens curiosity and
conversation Next Steps Apply it now Identify one role or skill set
that would free up 10 hours of your time per week — and ask
yourself: can I generate double what it would cost to bring that
person in? Free Training Access Paul's brand new training on how to
use team and tech to scale in 2025:
https://scaleupcoaching.com/keynote Scale with Paul If this episode
resonated, Paul's work focuses on helping founders step out of the
day-to-day and scale with structure and confidence. Book a call
with Paul: https://www.paulavins.com/book-a-call Subscribe to the
Scale-Up Newsletter: https://www.paulavins.com/newsletter-opt-in
Connect with Paul on LinkedIn: Search Paul Avins (he's the only
one!) Explore team resources: https://teamdynamics.com About Paul
Avins Paul Avins is a scale-up business coach and founder of the
Grown-Up Business framework. He works with founders and CEOs to
help them move from operator to scale-up leader — building
businesses that grow sustainably, scale beyond the founder, and
create real enterprise value. Paul's work focuses on disciplined
leadership, high-performing teams, and systems that replace chaos
with clarity. Level Up. Team Up. Scale Up. Fire Up.

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