What if the secret to scaling your business isn't working harder —
but learning to collaborate with AI in ways most entrepreneurs
haven't even considered? In this episode of The Grown Up Business
Podcast, Paul Avins is joined by Julie Holmes — inventor, tech
founder, and AI expert who has spent over 25 years in enterprise
technology. Julie shares her journey from building cat traps as a
kid to creating innovative products like the HeyMic (the first
Bluetooth microphone for phone videos) and now helping
entrepreneurs harness AI to scale faster, serve better, and lead
smarter. Together, Paul and Julie unpack why most people are still
just dabbling with AI, the difference between using AI and being
empowered by it, and how founders can apply an AI-first mindset to
build grown-up businesses that scale sustainably. This episode is
essential listening for founders and CEOs who want to stop
outsourcing their thinking to technology and start using AI as the
ultimate leverage tool. Key Takeaways Why most people are using AI
wrong — and how to shift from user to empowered professional The
20-60-20 framework: how to collaborate with AI without outsourcing
your ingenuity Why vibe coding is revolutionizing how entrepreneurs
build products and solve problems The difference between mechanical
and meaningful — and when to lean into automation vs human
connection How AI-first thinking changes customer journeys, sales
cycles, and business operations Why GEO (Generative Engine
Optimization) is the new SEO — and what you need to do now Why the
most valuable skill isn't coding — it's problem solving,
communication, and grit About the Guest Julie Holmes is an
inventor, tech founder, and AI expert with over 25 years in
enterprise technology. She is founder of Smarter HQ and the creator
of the HeyMic, the first Bluetooth microphone designed for phone
video, and author of 101 Tips, Tools and Prompts for Sales Pros and
101 Tips, Tools and Prompts for AI Leaders. Julie specializes in
helping entrepreneurs and business leaders become AI-empowered —
using technology to enhance performance, not replace it. Next Steps
Apply it now Identify one business process you're still doing
manually and ask: how could AI enhance this — not replace it?
Connect with Julie Holmes — https://julieholmes.com Scale with Paul
If this episode resonated, Paul's work focuses on helping founders
step out of the day-to-day and scale with structure and confidence.
Book a call with Paul: https://www.paulavins.com/book-a-call
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https://www.paulavins.com/newsletter-opt-in About Paul Avins Paul
Avins is a scale-up business coach and founder of the Grown-Up
Business framework. He works with founders and CEOs to help them
move from operator to scale-up leader — building businesses that
grow sustainably, scale beyond the founder, and create real
enterprise value. Paul's work focuses on disciplined leadership,
high-performing teams, and systems that replace chaos with clarity.
Level Up. Team Up. Scale Up. Fire Up.
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