S5E10: OKRs, Outcome Management and Neurosocial Leadership - with Sebastian Morgner from MLI

"So is it a culture where conflicts are avoided or where
hierarchy solves conflicts? Because, hierarchy is always right
and other people have to accept that? Or is it a culture where
conflicts are seen as a creative source, as a source of
creativity, of discussion, different viewpoints and people like
to have dialogues about the best possible perspective? All that
together, often unseen, is what social dynamics are about. Modern
leadership has to understand and know about the social dynamics
and all this unconscious bias in groups if you really want to
become successful." - Sebastian Morgner, MLI.





With today’s guest Sebastian Morgner we talk about neurosocial
leadership, giving insights into what neurosocial leadership
actually is and why it is important - especially right now in
this VUCA (volatile, uncertain, complex, ambiguous) environment.
He also shares how leaders should approach this topic by taking
into consideration the different personalities, communication
styles and experience of each team member.


We also dicuss how social dynamics connect to outcome-based
thinking and OKRs. According to Sebastian, having a tangible and
inspiring vision in a company with clear goals and
responsibilities is one part of successful strategy
implementation. The other part, however, is taking the time and
space to actually reflect and discuss whether the team is on the
right way, what the obstacles are and what they have learned in
the past weeks or months. This is only possible if there’s
psychological safety in the team, where responsibilities are
clearly distributed and where the management team is open for
feedback.


Lastly, we touch on how enterprise leaders can use social
dynamics to influence the shift of a company culture toward a
more outcome-based thinking. The retrospective in the OKR process
is mentioned to be a very valuable tool for leaders to achieve
this but leaders also need to make sure that the politics and
reporting lines in the organization don’t block cross-functional
goals.





Sebastian Morgner is Managing Director of the MLI Leadership
Institute in Munich. He advises leadership teams of global
companies on digital transformation, coaches executives and
accompanies them in strategy implementation in Leadership Sprints
based on OKR logic. Sebastian is the author of the book
"Expedition Future - how you can use chance to master uncertainty
and complexity". He was a pioneer in digitalization and has built
seven different business units during his career. He is a
certified mental coach and keynote speaker (GSA).





Where to find Sebastian:


LinkedIn


MLI





Where to find Johannes:


LinkedIn





Resources mentioned on the show:


Books:


Expedition Zukunft -  Wie wir den zufall nutzen können, um
Ungewissheit und Komplexität zu meistern


Antifragile


Things that gain from disorder


Thinking, fast and slow


Podcast:


New Leadership Podcast


Outcome Economy Summit Workshop:


How neuro-social leadership helps to implement OKRs effectively





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