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40 Minuten
In this episode, we talk about our journey with the Holy Spirit. We both grew up in church contexts where He wasn’t ignored—but He wasn’t really known either. Over time, through Scripture, ministry, and seasons of stretching, we’ve learned that the Spirit isn’t just a doctrine to understand or gifts to experience. He is God with us.
We share what it looks like for us to walk with Him between Sundays—asking Him to illuminate the Word, guide our steps, soften our hearts, and provide power where our strength runs out. More than anything, we’ve learned that the Holy Spirit loves to make much of Jesus, and life with Him is marked not just by power, but by tenderness.
Our hope is simple: that you’d open your Bible, ask the Spirit to speak, and begin growing in friendship with Him.
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If you Pre-Order the book now, you will get access to some bonus content, including access to a 2 hour long conversation we got to have with our friends, Ali Parsons, Philip Anthony Mitchell, Joel Muddamalle, and Jonathan Pokluda. You can Pre-Order here.
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We share what it looks like for us to walk with Him between Sundays—asking Him to illuminate the Word, guide our steps, soften our hearts, and provide power where our strength runs out. More than anything, we’ve learned that the Holy Spirit loves to make much of Jesus, and life with Him is marked not just by power, but by tenderness.
Our hope is simple: that you’d open your Bible, ask the Spirit to speak, and begin growing in friendship with Him.
ORDER MY LATEST BOOK
Becoming Like Jesus is a book about “progressive sanctification” that takes it beyond church words into the honest conversation so many Christians have navigated. Rooted in the Beatitudes, this book unpacks the lifelong series of highs and lows that the Holy Spirit uses to shape us into a person who looks like Jesus.
If you Pre-Order the book now, you will get access to some bonus content, including access to a 2 hour long conversation we got to have with our friends, Ali Parsons, Philip Anthony Mitchell, Joel Muddamalle, and Jonathan Pokluda. You can Pre-Order here.
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46 Minuten
In this episode, we walk through what it looks like to do a “drain audit.” What drains us emotionally? Physically? Spiritually? Relationally? We talk honestly about how tragedy, busyness, sickness, loud rooms, traffic, and even good ministry can leave us thin.
We also talk about rhythms—daily, weekly, and seasonal—that help us build a replenishment cycle. Not as indulgence. Not as an escape. But as obedience. Because running empty isn’t holy. And exhaustion isn’t a mystery—it’s a pattern.
If you’ve been chasing rest but still feel weary, we hope this conversation encourages you & helps you build your own rhythms of replenishment.
In This Episode
[01:00] Lauren’s Ice Cream Jackpot & Cricked Neck [04:00] Rest vs. Replenishment – What’s the Difference? [06:00] The Drain Audit: What Empties Your Cup? [10:00] Emotional Drain: Tragedy, Busyness & Feeling “Thin” [16:00] Physical Drain: Sickness, Sleep & Human Limits [18:00] Spiritual Drain: When We Can’t Hear the Lord [21:30] Longing, Ecclesiastes & Living Life Backwards [23:30] Stop Treating Exhaustion Like a Mystery [25:00] Check Engine Lights [27:00] What Actually Replenishes Us [32:00] Building Daily, Weekly & Seasonal Rhythms [38:00] Replenishment Is Not Indulgence — It’s Obedience [41:00] Seasons Change the Strategy [45:00] Doing the Replenishment Audit Together
Resources and Mentions
Living Life Backwards by David Gibson
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Becoming Like Jesus is a book about “progressive sanctification” that takes it beyond church words into the honest conversation so many Christians have navigated. Rooted in the Beatitudes, this book unpacks the lifelong series of highs and lows that the Holy Spirit uses to shape us into a person who looks like Jesus.
If you Pre-Order the book now, you will get access to some bonus content, including access to a 2 hour long conversation we got to have with our friends, Ali Parsons, Philip Anthony Mitchell, Joel Muddamalle, and Jonathan Pokluda. You can Pre-Order here.
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We also talk about rhythms—daily, weekly, and seasonal—that help us build a replenishment cycle. Not as indulgence. Not as an escape. But as obedience. Because running empty isn’t holy. And exhaustion isn’t a mystery—it’s a pattern.
If you’ve been chasing rest but still feel weary, we hope this conversation encourages you & helps you build your own rhythms of replenishment.
In This Episode
[01:00] Lauren’s Ice Cream Jackpot & Cricked Neck [04:00] Rest vs. Replenishment – What’s the Difference? [06:00] The Drain Audit: What Empties Your Cup? [10:00] Emotional Drain: Tragedy, Busyness & Feeling “Thin” [16:00] Physical Drain: Sickness, Sleep & Human Limits [18:00] Spiritual Drain: When We Can’t Hear the Lord [21:30] Longing, Ecclesiastes & Living Life Backwards [23:30] Stop Treating Exhaustion Like a Mystery [25:00] Check Engine Lights [27:00] What Actually Replenishes Us [32:00] Building Daily, Weekly & Seasonal Rhythms [38:00] Replenishment Is Not Indulgence — It’s Obedience [41:00] Seasons Change the Strategy [45:00] Doing the Replenishment Audit Together
Resources and Mentions
Living Life Backwards by David Gibson
ORDER MY LATEST BOOK
Becoming Like Jesus is a book about “progressive sanctification” that takes it beyond church words into the honest conversation so many Christians have navigated. Rooted in the Beatitudes, this book unpacks the lifelong series of highs and lows that the Holy Spirit uses to shape us into a person who looks like Jesus.
If you Pre-Order the book now, you will get access to some bonus content, including access to a 2 hour long conversation we got to have with our friends, Ali Parsons, Philip Anthony Mitchell, Joel Muddamalle, and Jonathan Pokluda. You can Pre-Order here.
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37 Minuten
In this episode of Between Sundays, Lauren and I talk about something that’s foundational to life in Christ but often overlooked: friendship. God made us for connection. You and I were not designed to walk this life alone, and yet so many of us are doing just that. We unpack the epidemic of loneliness, how real transformation happens in community, how to pursue meaningful friendships, and how to discern who is safe to be vulnerable with. It’s not easy. It takes time. It takes risk. But it is also worth it. Our hope is that this conversation gives you vision and practical tools to form the kind of deep, gospel-centered friendships we all need.
In This Episode
[00:00] Lauren’s Dad Joke [02:00] The "At the Table" Series and the Loneliness Epidemic [04:49] Transformation Happens in Community [06:00] What Real Friendship Looks Like (and Why It’s Hard to Find) [09:02] Risk, Vulnerability, and the Role of Wisdom [10:00] How to Spot a Fool (and Why You Shouldn’t Be Friends with One) [13:10] Wise vs. Simple vs. Foolish: Who Can You Trust? [15:00] Belonging Deficits and Misreading Social Cues [18:00] Hurt, Healing, and How We Grow in Relationships [21:00] You Are Becoming Like Your Closest Friends [23:00] Inside Lauren’s Closest Friendships: A 20-Year Story [31:00] Evaluating Your Current Friendships [34:00] Inviting Friends Into the Journey (Without Breaking Up With Them)
Resources and Mentions
Proverbs 13:20, Proverbs 22:24–25 – On choosing friends wisely U.S. Surgeon General’s 2023 report on loneliness as an epidemic The Overcomers: The King's Table episode - On Male Friendships Becoming Like Jesus - Matt’s Forthcoming Book
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In This Episode
[00:00] Lauren’s Dad Joke [02:00] The "At the Table" Series and the Loneliness Epidemic [04:49] Transformation Happens in Community [06:00] What Real Friendship Looks Like (and Why It’s Hard to Find) [09:02] Risk, Vulnerability, and the Role of Wisdom [10:00] How to Spot a Fool (and Why You Shouldn’t Be Friends with One) [13:10] Wise vs. Simple vs. Foolish: Who Can You Trust? [15:00] Belonging Deficits and Misreading Social Cues [18:00] Hurt, Healing, and How We Grow in Relationships [21:00] You Are Becoming Like Your Closest Friends [23:00] Inside Lauren’s Closest Friendships: A 20-Year Story [31:00] Evaluating Your Current Friendships [34:00] Inviting Friends Into the Journey (Without Breaking Up With Them)
Resources and Mentions
Proverbs 13:20, Proverbs 22:24–25 – On choosing friends wisely U.S. Surgeon General’s 2023 report on loneliness as an epidemic The Overcomers: The King's Table episode - On Male Friendships Becoming Like Jesus - Matt’s Forthcoming Book
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44 Minuten
Hey friends—Matt Chandler here. If you’ve followed The Overcomers, you know I’ve spent years telling stories of God’s grace amidst unimaginable pain. But we’re starting a new chapter doing something Lauren and I have desired to do for awhile now. We are pulling up two chairs and inviting you into the kinds of conversations we’ve had over two decades of marriage—some tender, some funny, all rooted in grace and truth.
In this first episode, we walk through our first seven years of marriage. We talk about unmet expectations, brokenness, and the power of covenant love. We dig into how God met us—not with quick fixes, but with the slow, steady work of transformation. If you’re married, want to be, or walking with someone who is, our prayer is this gives you some practical steps for building a strong marriage and reminds you we are all in need of God’s work in our lives.
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In this first episode, we walk through our first seven years of marriage. We talk about unmet expectations, brokenness, and the power of covenant love. We dig into how God met us—not with quick fixes, but with the slow, steady work of transformation. If you’re married, want to be, or walking with someone who is, our prayer is this gives you some practical steps for building a strong marriage and reminds you we are all in need of God’s work in our lives.
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69 Sekunden
Between Sundays with the Chandlers is a candid podcast hosted by Matt and Lauren Chandler that invites listeners into the everyday conversations that happen between church services and busy weeks. With warmth, honesty, and humor, the Chandlers talk about real life, marriage, parenting, faith, leadership, suffering, joy, and the ordinary moments that shape who we’re becoming.
Rather than polished answers or Sunday morning soundbites, Between Sundays offers thoughtful reflections rooted in Scripture and lived experience. Matt and Lauren share openly about the challenges and blessings of walking with Jesus in the middle of work, family life, and personal growth, creating space for listeners to feel seen, encouraged, and grounded.
This podcast is for anyone who wants faith to connect to real life, not just on Sundays, but in the in-between moments where discipleship is actually lived.
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Rather than polished answers or Sunday morning soundbites, Between Sundays offers thoughtful reflections rooted in Scripture and lived experience. Matt and Lauren share openly about the challenges and blessings of walking with Jesus in the middle of work, family life, and personal growth, creating space for listeners to feel seen, encouraged, and grounded.
This podcast is for anyone who wants faith to connect to real life, not just on Sundays, but in the in-between moments where discipleship is actually lived.
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Global Christian Relief: We’re grateful for partners like Global Christian Relief. They are on the front lines supporting our persecuted brothers and sisters around the world — delivering food, shelter, Bibles, and hope where it’s needed most, and calling the Church to pray boldly and stand faithfully with them.Visit GlobalChristianRelief.org to learn how you can pray, give, and stand with believers who are a light for Jesus in the darkest places. Global Christian Relief is helping faithful believers stand firm for the Gospel.
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42 Minuten
I got to sit down with Olga Reed, a longtime member of The Village Church and someone I deeply admire. Olga walks us through her story—from battling depression and loneliness as a first-generation college student, to coming to faith in Christ, and then surviving one of the deadliest school shootings in U.S. history at Virginia Tech.
Her testimony is a resounding declaration that the darkness did not win and Christ was at work even in the darkest places. Through pain, trauma, and even survivor's guilt, Olga clung to the Word of God, discovered healing in community, and found that Jesus is better than life.
In This Episode
Meet Olga Reed: First-Gen Faith and Virginia Tech Depression, Isolation, and Searching for Belonging Surrender to Jesus: "Fine" Finding Cru and Her First Bible Study April 15: The Suicide Attempt April 16, 2007: Waking to Sirens After the Shooting: Fear, Grief, and Loneliness Hope in Romans 8 and the Power of Scripture Triggers, Therapy, and Talking About It Evil Exists, But So Does Resurrection
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This book offers biblical wisdom and the stories of faithful saints to help you see God’s faithfulness in the darkest seasons. Grab Overcoming the Darkness today at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold. On Our Way Home by Colleen Chao
Through Scripture and her own journey of suffering, Colleen Chao reminds us that all our longings point to the joy of our true Home with Christ. Get your copy of On Our Way Home at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold.
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Her testimony is a resounding declaration that the darkness did not win and Christ was at work even in the darkest places. Through pain, trauma, and even survivor's guilt, Olga clung to the Word of God, discovered healing in community, and found that Jesus is better than life.
In This Episode
Meet Olga Reed: First-Gen Faith and Virginia Tech Depression, Isolation, and Searching for Belonging Surrender to Jesus: "Fine" Finding Cru and Her First Bible Study April 15: The Suicide Attempt April 16, 2007: Waking to Sirens After the Shooting: Fear, Grief, and Loneliness Hope in Romans 8 and the Power of Scripture Triggers, Therapy, and Talking About It Evil Exists, But So Does Resurrection
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QAVA is a Christian streaming platform that helps you understand the Bible and live out your faith with confidence. Think of it as digital discipleship in your pocket. Visit qava.tv/theovercomers and use code OVERCOME50 for 50% off your first 6 months. That’s only $4.99 a month! Overcoming the Darkness by Nate Pickowicz
This book offers biblical wisdom and the stories of faithful saints to help you see God’s faithfulness in the darkest seasons. Grab Overcoming the Darkness today at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold. On Our Way Home by Colleen Chao
Through Scripture and her own journey of suffering, Colleen Chao reminds us that all our longings point to the joy of our true Home with Christ. Get your copy of On Our Way Home at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold.
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46 Minuten
In this episode, I sit down with my lovely wife Lauren to explore her story. She shares about growing up as a “good girl,” always chasing approval, achievement, and the A+. But beneath that pursuit was a deeper struggle: the fear of being weak, broken, or not enough. We talk about how that mindset shaped our marriage, her ministry, and her identity—and the powerful moment when she finally laid it all down at Recovery. This conversation is filled with the kind of grace that sets people free. If you’ve ever struggled with perfectionism, people-pleasing, or performance-driven faith, I believe this episode will offer truth and healing to where you are. In This Episode
Childhood roots of perfectionism and people-pleasing How "being good" can become a way to avoid needing God Marriage as the first wake-up call to grace Hitting the idol of achievement in music ministry The surrender chip moment: Letting go of control Embracing powerlessness and understanding grace How fixed mindset stifled creativity and risk-taking Moving toward a growth mindset in songwriting Learning to say “no” and disappoint people with peace Parenting and people-pleasing under the spotlight Shame, criticism, and trusting God with your reputation Remaining vigilant: How perfectionism tries to sneak back in Final encouragement for those stuck in performance
Resources
Beth Moore's Bible Study: Believing God TVC Recovery Ministry Follow Lauren
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This book offers biblical wisdom and the stories of faithful saints to help you see God’s faithfulness in the darkest seasons. Grab Overcoming the Darkness today at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold. On Our Way Home by Colleen Chao
Through Scripture and her own journey of suffering, Colleen Chao reminds us that all our longings point to the joy of our true Home with Christ. Get your copy of On Our Way Home at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold.
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Childhood roots of perfectionism and people-pleasing How "being good" can become a way to avoid needing God Marriage as the first wake-up call to grace Hitting the idol of achievement in music ministry The surrender chip moment: Letting go of control Embracing powerlessness and understanding grace How fixed mindset stifled creativity and risk-taking Moving toward a growth mindset in songwriting Learning to say “no” and disappoint people with peace Parenting and people-pleasing under the spotlight Shame, criticism, and trusting God with your reputation Remaining vigilant: How perfectionism tries to sneak back in Final encouragement for those stuck in performance
Resources
Beth Moore's Bible Study: Believing God TVC Recovery Ministry Follow Lauren
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QAVA is a Christian streaming platform that helps you understand the Bible and live out your faith with confidence. Think of it as digital discipleship in your pocket. Visit qava.tv/theovercomers and use code OVERCOME50 for 50% off your first 6 months. That’s only $4.99 a month! Overcoming the Darkness by Nate Pickowicz
This book offers biblical wisdom and the stories of faithful saints to help you see God’s faithfulness in the darkest seasons. Grab Overcoming the Darkness today at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold. On Our Way Home by Colleen Chao
Through Scripture and her own journey of suffering, Colleen Chao reminds us that all our longings point to the joy of our true Home with Christ. Get your copy of On Our Way Home at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold.
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50 Minuten
In this episode, I sit down with my friend Josh Turner—pastor, leader, and now author of Into the Storm. Josh’s story is one of unexpected suffering and surprising strength. We talk about his daughter Riley, born with a rare condition, undiagnosed for 12 years, and now living life with courage and clarity most adults don’t have. Josh shares what it was like walking through that pain while pastoring, wrestling with God’s sovereignty, and being forced to reexamine what he actually believed about suffering.
That experience, by the grace of God, moved Josh from being just a servant of God to living like a son. We also dive into the ministry he now leads, 10Ten Project, which helps pastors get healthy before they burn out or blow up. This episode isn’t just for church leaders—it’s for anyone walking through pain, anyone looking for hope, and anyone needing to be reminded: God is doing more than you think He is.
In This Episode
Suffering as a young pastor and preparing the church for it Josh’s early ministry influences and meeting Matt The story of Riley’s birth and undiagnosed condition Wrestling theologically with suffering and God’s sovereignty Transition from servant to son – a pastor’s identity crisis Why 10Ten exists: helping pastors finish well How many pastors are emotionally unaware Real stories from intensives and ministry breakdowns A theology of suffering is essential for everyone Encouragement to those in suffering or leadership burnout
Guest Resources
Into the Storm by Josh Turner 10Ten Project Follow Joshua Follow 10Ten Project
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Overcoming the Darkness by Nate Pickowicz
This book offers biblical wisdom and the stories of faithful saints to help you see God’s faithfulness in the darkest seasons. Grab Overcoming the Darkness today at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold. On Our Way Home by Colleen Chao
Through Scripture and her own journey of suffering, Colleen Chao reminds us that all our longings point to the joy of our true Home with Christ. Get your copy of On Our Way Home at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold.
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That experience, by the grace of God, moved Josh from being just a servant of God to living like a son. We also dive into the ministry he now leads, 10Ten Project, which helps pastors get healthy before they burn out or blow up. This episode isn’t just for church leaders—it’s for anyone walking through pain, anyone looking for hope, and anyone needing to be reminded: God is doing more than you think He is.
In This Episode
Suffering as a young pastor and preparing the church for it Josh’s early ministry influences and meeting Matt The story of Riley’s birth and undiagnosed condition Wrestling theologically with suffering and God’s sovereignty Transition from servant to son – a pastor’s identity crisis Why 10Ten exists: helping pastors finish well How many pastors are emotionally unaware Real stories from intensives and ministry breakdowns A theology of suffering is essential for everyone Encouragement to those in suffering or leadership burnout
Guest Resources
Into the Storm by Josh Turner 10Ten Project Follow Joshua Follow 10Ten Project
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Overcoming the Darkness by Nate Pickowicz
This book offers biblical wisdom and the stories of faithful saints to help you see God’s faithfulness in the darkest seasons. Grab Overcoming the Darkness today at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold. On Our Way Home by Colleen Chao
Through Scripture and her own journey of suffering, Colleen Chao reminds us that all our longings point to the joy of our true Home with Christ. Get your copy of On Our Way Home at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold.
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48 Minuten
I sat down with artist, writer and friend Josh Nadeau to explore his path from theological precocity to personal crisis and ultimately, redemptive beauty. Josh shares how growing up steeped in Reformed theology didn’t insulate him from a slow descent into apathy, addiction, spiritual numbness, and walking through life “as a ghost”. It was beauty—raw, embodied, soul-stirring beauty—that woke him up. We talk about deconstruction, embodiment, addiction, the love of God, and why aesthetics — embodied faith — might be what Saints are made from. If you’re barely hanging on or wondering what a holy life could look like beyond checklists, I commend his book Room For Good Things to Run Wild to you. In This Episode
Growing up “super Christian” and deeply catechized University: the intellectual wrestling match of faith Burnout, apathy, and alcohol: five years of slow unraveling Rock bottom: bourbon at 5am and the call of hidden music Churchy clichés and the need for something that can bear the weight The boxing gym: embodied weakness and discipleship Gnosticism, disembodied faith, and hunger for incarnation Theology of the Body & rediscovering the sacred in flesh Becoming a saint: not instant, not easy, but beautiful God’s love beyond usefulness, the danger of returning to slavery Why Josh wrote Room for Good Things to Run Wild Beauty as the apologetic for a disenchanted age Speaking to the silent middle: the “4 out of 10” Christian life
Guest Resources
Room for Good Things to Run Wild by Josh Nadeau Josh’s Instagram Josh’s Substack
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Through Scripture and her own journey of suffering, Colleen Chao reminds us that all our longings point to the joy of our true Home with Christ. Get your copy of On Our Way Home at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever good books are sold.
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Growing up “super Christian” and deeply catechized University: the intellectual wrestling match of faith Burnout, apathy, and alcohol: five years of slow unraveling Rock bottom: bourbon at 5am and the call of hidden music Churchy clichés and the need for something that can bear the weight The boxing gym: embodied weakness and discipleship Gnosticism, disembodied faith, and hunger for incarnation Theology of the Body & rediscovering the sacred in flesh Becoming a saint: not instant, not easy, but beautiful God’s love beyond usefulness, the danger of returning to slavery Why Josh wrote Room for Good Things to Run Wild Beauty as the apologetic for a disenchanted age Speaking to the silent middle: the “4 out of 10” Christian life
Guest Resources
Room for Good Things to Run Wild by Josh Nadeau Josh’s Instagram Josh’s Substack
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On Our Way Home by Colleen Chao
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50 Minuten
In this episode, I sit down with JP and Ashley Graves—longtime friends and members of our church—with a story that’s both difficult and deeply hopeful. We talk about alcohol—not just as a drink, but as an idol that slowly took the throne in JP’s life and nearly destroyed their marriage. What started as casual drinking turned into dependence, deceit, and despair. Ashley shares what it was like to live with a man she barely recognized, and JP walks us through the moment of surrender that led to healing. This isn’t just about sobriety—it’s about learning to recognize the lies you may be believing and the power of Jesus to meet us in our mess, pull us out, and redeem what feels too far gone. If you’re feeling stuck, ashamed, or maybe you aren’t sure if your drinking is a problem—this episode is for you.
In This Episode
A Fun Marriage with a Hidden Struggle: JP and Ashley share their early faith journeys, how they met, and the beginnings of alcohol use in their marriage. Numbing with Alcohol Becomes Normal: COVID, cultural norms, and unprocessed pain escalate drinking into full dependency—especially for JP. Deception, Distance, and Despair: JP begins hiding alcohol, Ashley senses the loss of connection, and both begin living separate lives under one roof. A Daughter’s Baptism and a Drunken Confession: JP breaks down the night before he’s supposed to baptize their daughter, leading to a confession that changes everything. Recovery, Rebuilding, and Radical Forgiveness: JP enters counseling and AA. Ashley processes her pain and begins to hope again as God starts to restore. For the One Who Feels Hopeless: JP and Ashley speak directly to listeners—those stuck in addiction and those silently suffering beside them.
Resources
If you are struggling with alcohol, I want to encourage you to find help. Find a Recovery program at a local church or if you are local to Dallas, Check out Recovery at The Village Church.
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This episode of The Overcomers is sponsored by Acts 29, with an invitation to the Acts 29 Conference this coming October in Dallas. To learn more and register, visit acts29.com/conference. Overcomers listeners will receive a special discount of $20 off registration prices using the code OVERCOMERS in all caps anytime before October 1.
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In This Episode
A Fun Marriage with a Hidden Struggle: JP and Ashley share their early faith journeys, how they met, and the beginnings of alcohol use in their marriage. Numbing with Alcohol Becomes Normal: COVID, cultural norms, and unprocessed pain escalate drinking into full dependency—especially for JP. Deception, Distance, and Despair: JP begins hiding alcohol, Ashley senses the loss of connection, and both begin living separate lives under one roof. A Daughter’s Baptism and a Drunken Confession: JP breaks down the night before he’s supposed to baptize their daughter, leading to a confession that changes everything. Recovery, Rebuilding, and Radical Forgiveness: JP enters counseling and AA. Ashley processes her pain and begins to hope again as God starts to restore. For the One Who Feels Hopeless: JP and Ashley speak directly to listeners—those stuck in addiction and those silently suffering beside them.
Resources
If you are struggling with alcohol, I want to encourage you to find help. Find a Recovery program at a local church or if you are local to Dallas, Check out Recovery at The Village Church.
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The Victory app, with powerful accountability features built in and the optional blocking technology, makes it an unparalleled tool in the fight to live a porn-free life.
Anyone can get started on their path to recovery for free by visiting: Covenanteyes.com/overcomers for 30 days free.
Acts 29
This episode of The Overcomers is sponsored by Acts 29, with an invitation to the Acts 29 Conference this coming October in Dallas. To learn more and register, visit acts29.com/conference. Overcomers listeners will receive a special discount of $20 off registration prices using the code OVERCOMERS in all caps anytime before October 1.
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1 Stunde 6 Minuten
I sat down with Luke Lezon and Will Chung to explore how Gen Z and Millennials are wrestling with identity, dignity, and discipleship in a rapidly shifting culture. These young pastors are preaching into cities like Orlando and LA—transient places that offer gospel-sending opportunities—and we unpacked the dangers of comfort culture and over-therapeutic narratives. We talked about how the call to follow Christ includes self-denial, repentance, and mission. Each of us shared stories of wilderness seasons, pastoral burnout, and the deep healing required to lead from wholeness. This is a deep dive into the joys and costs of courageous ministry today. I pray it encourages you — whatever context you’re in.
In This Episode
[02:00] Identity vs. Dignity: Will’s Pastoral Lens [05:30] Cultural Pressures and Fragile Worth [06:30] Luke on the “Identity Fair” and a Better Story [07:45] Gospel Ministry in a Collapsing Secularism [08:45] Ministering in Transient Cities: Orlando & LA [10:00] Mission Field Mindsets and “Sending Capacity” [12:00] Five-Year Discipleship Windows [14:00] Lies This Generation Believes About God [17:30] The Overcorrection of Self-Care & Gospel Rest [21:00] Rest vs. Replenishment: Jefferson Bethke’s Shift [23:00] Gen Z’s Pain Tolerance & Hunger for Mission [24:00] Will’s 2020 Breakdown: Performing to Be Enough [29:00] Depression and Identity [31:00] Luke’s Story: Betrayal, Leadership, and God’s Timing [35:00] “Cut Robes, Don’t Kill Kings”: Leading Through Hurt [38:00] Repentance + Healing = Transformation [41:00] Therapy, Trauma, and the Gospel of Repentance [45:00] What Christian Therapy Is—and What It’s Not [47:00] Courage in the Pulpit: What It Looks Like Now [50:00] Don’t Be Lazy with the Word: Clarity Over Comfort [52:00] Hermeneutical Bubbles and Pastoral Cowardice [54:00] What the Church Needs to Repent Of (Apathy) [56:00] The Radical Disciple and the Lost Mission [58:00] Stop Selling Out for Ministry Success [01:01:00] Hearing from God, Not Social Media [01:04:00] Final Words + A Call to Spiritual Fathers
Guest Resources
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The Victory app, with powerful accountability features built in and the optional blocking technology, makes it an unparalleled tool in the fight to live a porn-free life.
Anyone can get started on their path to recovery for free by visiting: Covenanteyes.com/overcomers for 30 days free.
Acts 29
This episode of The Overcomers is sponsored by Acts 29, with an invitation to the Acts 29 Conference this coming October in Dallas. To learn more and register, visit acts29.com/conference. Overcomers listeners will receive a special discount of $20 off registration prices using the code OVERCOMERS in all caps anytime before October 1.
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In This Episode
[02:00] Identity vs. Dignity: Will’s Pastoral Lens [05:30] Cultural Pressures and Fragile Worth [06:30] Luke on the “Identity Fair” and a Better Story [07:45] Gospel Ministry in a Collapsing Secularism [08:45] Ministering in Transient Cities: Orlando & LA [10:00] Mission Field Mindsets and “Sending Capacity” [12:00] Five-Year Discipleship Windows [14:00] Lies This Generation Believes About God [17:30] The Overcorrection of Self-Care & Gospel Rest [21:00] Rest vs. Replenishment: Jefferson Bethke’s Shift [23:00] Gen Z’s Pain Tolerance & Hunger for Mission [24:00] Will’s 2020 Breakdown: Performing to Be Enough [29:00] Depression and Identity [31:00] Luke’s Story: Betrayal, Leadership, and God’s Timing [35:00] “Cut Robes, Don’t Kill Kings”: Leading Through Hurt [38:00] Repentance + Healing = Transformation [41:00] Therapy, Trauma, and the Gospel of Repentance [45:00] What Christian Therapy Is—and What It’s Not [47:00] Courage in the Pulpit: What It Looks Like Now [50:00] Don’t Be Lazy with the Word: Clarity Over Comfort [52:00] Hermeneutical Bubbles and Pastoral Cowardice [54:00] What the Church Needs to Repent Of (Apathy) [56:00] The Radical Disciple and the Lost Mission [58:00] Stop Selling Out for Ministry Success [01:01:00] Hearing from God, Not Social Media [01:04:00] Final Words + A Call to Spiritual Fathers
Guest Resources
Follow Luke Luke’s Church Follow Will Will’s Church
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The Victory app, with powerful accountability features built in and the optional blocking technology, makes it an unparalleled tool in the fight to live a porn-free life.
Anyone can get started on their path to recovery for free by visiting: Covenanteyes.com/overcomers for 30 days free.
Acts 29
This episode of The Overcomers is sponsored by Acts 29, with an invitation to the Acts 29 Conference this coming October in Dallas. To learn more and register, visit acts29.com/conference. Overcomers listeners will receive a special discount of $20 off registration prices using the code OVERCOMERS in all caps anytime before October 1.
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1 Stunde 12 Minuten
In this episode, I sit down with entrepreneur and restaurateur Marty Bryan—founder of Marty B’s Restaurant—and Eric Loper, a former tech executive turned faith-driven consultant. Together, we dive into what it really looks like to integrate your faith into your business—whether you’re the CEO or just starting out.
Marty shares the story behind Marty B’s, a now nine-restaurant enterprise built on Christian values and radical hospitality. Eric opens up about leaving a high-powered tech role to launch companies that give 100% of their profits to ministry. We talk ambition, humility, leadership, and why bold faith in the workplace might cost you—but is worth it every time.
Whether you're an entrepreneur, a manager in a Fortune 500 company, or just trying to live out your faith at work, this conversation is for you.
In This Episode
Why Faith and Business Don’t Need to Be Separate Marty’s Journey: From Learning the Industry to Owning 9 Restaurants Eric’s Story: Leaving Big Tech to Build Kingdom-Focused Ventures Integrating Faith in a Hospitality Business Men’s and Women’s Bible Breakfasts at Marty B’s Starting Worship Nights and Staying Bold Ambition, Ego, and Kingdom Impact Building Team and Culture Through Hospitality Handling Pushback, Staying Faithful Being Salt and Light in Secular Workplaces Prayer as a Witness in the Workplace Culture Building: Alignment and Drift Systems, Structure, and Knowing Your Strengths Truth Telling as a Cultural Foundation
Resources Mentioned
First Liberty Institute – Legal help for religious freedom cases Marty B’s Restaurants
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The Victory app, with powerful accountability features built in and the optional blocking technology, makes it an unparalleled tool in the fight to live a porn-free life.
Anyone can get started on their path to recovery for free by visiting: Covenanteyes.com/overcomers for 30 days free.
Moody Publishers
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Acts 29
This episode of The Overcomers is sponsored by Acts 29, with an invitation to the Acts 29 Conference this coming October in Dallas. To learn more and register, visit acts29.com/conference. Overcomers listeners will receive a special discount of $20 off registration prices using the code OVERCOMERS in all caps anytime before October 1.
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Marty shares the story behind Marty B’s, a now nine-restaurant enterprise built on Christian values and radical hospitality. Eric opens up about leaving a high-powered tech role to launch companies that give 100% of their profits to ministry. We talk ambition, humility, leadership, and why bold faith in the workplace might cost you—but is worth it every time.
Whether you're an entrepreneur, a manager in a Fortune 500 company, or just trying to live out your faith at work, this conversation is for you.
In This Episode
Why Faith and Business Don’t Need to Be Separate Marty’s Journey: From Learning the Industry to Owning 9 Restaurants Eric’s Story: Leaving Big Tech to Build Kingdom-Focused Ventures Integrating Faith in a Hospitality Business Men’s and Women’s Bible Breakfasts at Marty B’s Starting Worship Nights and Staying Bold Ambition, Ego, and Kingdom Impact Building Team and Culture Through Hospitality Handling Pushback, Staying Faithful Being Salt and Light in Secular Workplaces Prayer as a Witness in the Workplace Culture Building: Alignment and Drift Systems, Structure, and Knowing Your Strengths Truth Telling as a Cultural Foundation
Resources Mentioned
First Liberty Institute – Legal help for religious freedom cases Marty B’s Restaurants
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Covenant Eyes
Victory by Covenant Eyes is a powerful tool that helps Christians who are serious and want to quit porn for good or never start. Victory combines industry-leading technology with decades of experience and leadership in recovery content, accountability, and behavior change.
The Victory app, with powerful accountability features built in and the optional blocking technology, makes it an unparalleled tool in the fight to live a porn-free life.
Anyone can get started on their path to recovery for free by visiting: Covenanteyes.com/overcomers for 30 days free.
Moody Publishers
Find Grace Beyond Salvation and I Choose Joy wherever you get your books or at Moodypublishers.com
Acts 29
This episode of The Overcomers is sponsored by Acts 29, with an invitation to the Acts 29 Conference this coming October in Dallas. To learn more and register, visit acts29.com/conference. Overcomers listeners will receive a special discount of $20 off registration prices using the code OVERCOMERS in all caps anytime before October 1.
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54 Minuten
This is a sobering yet hope-filled episode. I sit down with Summer Vinson Berger and Adam Paa to discuss the pain, complexity, and redemptive potential of shepherding care in the local church. From owning massive failures in 2015 to building a robust, gospel-centered care framework at The Village Church, we discuss stories, strategies, and heartfelt convictions about what real, redemptive care looks like when the church chooses humility over image.
Whether you’re walking through trauma, burnout, addiction, or just longing for your church to care better—you’ll find wisdom and honesty here. This episode is a call to take the mess seriously, to listen better, and to believe that Jesus still heals through His body.
In This Episode
The Weight of Shepherding 2015: Owning the Failures of Care Introducing Summer Berger and Adam Paa Building a Comprehensive Care Ministry What Is Redemptive Care? Why Recovery Must Stay Messy The Three Buckets of Recovery Ministry through Recovery: A Front Door to the Church Integrating Gospel and Therapy Psychology Catching Up to Scripture Gratitude, Paul, and Neuroscience Common Grace and Counseling When Churches Resist Therapeutic Tools Why Shepherding Is So Complex Trust, Time, and Trauma Recovery The Risk of Mislabeling Problems The Weight and Cost of Church Hurt Training Churches to Respond Better A Call to Action for Pastors and the Broken
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The Victory app, with powerful accountability features built in and the optional blocking technology, makes it an unparalleled tool in the fight to live a porn-free life.
Anyone can get started on their path to recovery for free by visiting: Covenanteyes.com/overcomers for 30 days free.
Moody Publishers
Find Grace Beyond Salvation and I Choose Joy wherever you get your books or at Moodypublishers.com
Acts 29
This episode of The Overcomers is sponsored by Acts 29, with an invitation to the Acts 29 Conference this coming October in Dallas. To learn more and register, visit acts29.com/conference. Overcomers listeners will receive a special discount of $20 off registration prices using the code OVERCOMERS in all caps anytime before October 1.
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Whether you’re walking through trauma, burnout, addiction, or just longing for your church to care better—you’ll find wisdom and honesty here. This episode is a call to take the mess seriously, to listen better, and to believe that Jesus still heals through His body.
In This Episode
The Weight of Shepherding 2015: Owning the Failures of Care Introducing Summer Berger and Adam Paa Building a Comprehensive Care Ministry What Is Redemptive Care? Why Recovery Must Stay Messy The Three Buckets of Recovery Ministry through Recovery: A Front Door to the Church Integrating Gospel and Therapy Psychology Catching Up to Scripture Gratitude, Paul, and Neuroscience Common Grace and Counseling When Churches Resist Therapeutic Tools Why Shepherding Is So Complex Trust, Time, and Trauma Recovery The Risk of Mislabeling Problems The Weight and Cost of Church Hurt Training Churches to Respond Better A Call to Action for Pastors and the Broken
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The Victory app, with powerful accountability features built in and the optional blocking technology, makes it an unparalleled tool in the fight to live a porn-free life.
Anyone can get started on their path to recovery for free by visiting: Covenanteyes.com/overcomers for 30 days free.
Moody Publishers
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Acts 29
This episode of The Overcomers is sponsored by Acts 29, with an invitation to the Acts 29 Conference this coming October in Dallas. To learn more and register, visit acts29.com/conference. Overcomers listeners will receive a special discount of $20 off registration prices using the code OVERCOMERS in all caps anytime before October 1.
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52 Minuten
Today I unpack the gritty, grace-filled realities of planting churches with three faithful men—Ronnie, Travis, and Spencer—who are living it right now. We talk about the surprising slowness of fruit, the wounds of unmet expectations, and the refining power of suffering. We also celebrate the deep friendships, family sacrifices, and the sacred calling of building from scratch. Whether you’re dreaming of planting, deep in the trenches, or a church member wondering how to help—this one will stir your heart and steady your hands.
In This Episode
Why Church Planting Still Matters First-Year Surprises: Slow Growth, Big Work Vision Matters More Than You Think Heart Maintenance in the Hustle Questioning the Call: When Doubt Creeps In Family and Friendship on the Frontlines When Kids Feel the Cost Paper Cuts and Perseverance God's Provision in Scarcity The Power of Sending Churches Preaching and Leading from the Trenches A Word for the Weary Planter A Call to the Comfortable: Join the Work
Resources Mentioned
Book: Planting Missional Churches by Ed Stetzer - https://a.co/d/dij4kT2
Organizations & Networks:
NAMB (North American Mission Board) – namb.net Send Network – sendnetwork.com Acts 29 Church Planting Network – acts29.com
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In This Episode
Why Church Planting Still Matters First-Year Surprises: Slow Growth, Big Work Vision Matters More Than You Think Heart Maintenance in the Hustle Questioning the Call: When Doubt Creeps In Family and Friendship on the Frontlines When Kids Feel the Cost Paper Cuts and Perseverance God's Provision in Scarcity The Power of Sending Churches Preaching and Leading from the Trenches A Word for the Weary Planter A Call to the Comfortable: Join the Work
Resources Mentioned
Book: Planting Missional Churches by Ed Stetzer - https://a.co/d/dij4kT2
Organizations & Networks:
NAMB (North American Mission Board) – namb.net Send Network – sendnetwork.com Acts 29 Church Planting Network – acts29.com
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40 Minuten
This episode is special to me. I sit down with two of my heroes in the faith—Ray Ortlund and Crawford Loritts. These men have been anchors for me in moments of doubt and discouragement, and I wanted to ask them the questions that most pastors eventually ask themselves: How do you stay faithful for the long haul? How do you finish well when so many don't? We talk about the rhythms that sustained them over decades, the call of ministry that’s far more than a career, and what it looks like to fight pride and pursue humility every single day. We also dive deep into marriage, legacy, and the sacredness of being a pastor. If you're in the trenches—especially in your 20s to 40s—this one's for you. I want to finish well, and I know you do too.
In This Episode
[02:00] Rhythms That Sustain the Soul [05:00] The Call of God vs. a Career in Ministry [08:00] Shepherding, Not Hiring: A Vision for Pastoral Ministry [13:00] The Crisis of Calling in a Careerist Culture [16:00] The Tragedy of Falling Away [20:00] Discerning the Dangers in Different Seasons [25:00] Kill the Lion: Confronting Sin Early [30:00] The Deception of Success [33:00] The Call to Vulnerability and Brotherhood [36:00] Marriage, Legacy, and Intimacy [40:00] Cultivating Lifelong Love with Your Spouse [45:00] Final Encouragement: Stay Low, Stay Faithful
Resources
Finishing Strong by Steve Farrar Dangerous Calling by Paul David Tripp
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The Victory app, with powerful accountability features built in and the optional blocking technology, makes it an unparalleled tool in the fight to live a porn-free life.
Anyone can get started on their path to recovery for free by visiting: Covenanteyes.com/overcomers for 30 days free.
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In This Episode
[02:00] Rhythms That Sustain the Soul [05:00] The Call of God vs. a Career in Ministry [08:00] Shepherding, Not Hiring: A Vision for Pastoral Ministry [13:00] The Crisis of Calling in a Careerist Culture [16:00] The Tragedy of Falling Away [20:00] Discerning the Dangers in Different Seasons [25:00] Kill the Lion: Confronting Sin Early [30:00] The Deception of Success [33:00] The Call to Vulnerability and Brotherhood [36:00] Marriage, Legacy, and Intimacy [40:00] Cultivating Lifelong Love with Your Spouse [45:00] Final Encouragement: Stay Low, Stay Faithful
Resources
Finishing Strong by Steve Farrar Dangerous Calling by Paul David Tripp
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The Victory app, with powerful accountability features built in and the optional blocking technology, makes it an unparalleled tool in the fight to live a porn-free life.
Anyone can get started on their path to recovery for free by visiting: Covenanteyes.com/overcomers for 30 days free.
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