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On Suffering and Sonship

On Suffering and Sonship

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In this episode, I sit down with my friend Josh
Turner—pastor, leader, and now author of Into the
Storm. Josh’s story is one of unexpected suffering and
surprising strength. We talk about his daughter Riley, born with
a rare condition, undiagnosed for 12 years, and now living life
with courage and clarity most adults don’t have. Josh shares what
it was like walking through that pain while pastoring, wrestling
with God’s sovereignty, and being forced to reexamine what he
actually believed about suffering.

That experience, by the grace of God, moved Josh from being
just a servant of God to living like a son. We also dive into the
ministry he now leads, 10Ten Project, which helps pastors get
healthy before they burn out or blow up. This episode isn’t just
for church leaders—it’s for anyone walking through pain, anyone
looking for hope, and anyone needing to be reminded: God is doing
more than you think He is.

In This Episode

Suffering as a young pastor and preparing the church for
it

Josh’s early ministry influences and meeting Matt

The story of Riley’s birth and undiagnosed
condition

Wrestling theologically with suffering and God’s
sovereignty

Transition from servant to son – a pastor’s identity
crisis

Why 10Ten exists: helping pastors finish well

How many pastors are emotionally unaware

Real stories from intensives and ministry
breakdowns

A theology of suffering is essential for everyone

Encouragement to those in suffering or leadership
burnout

Guest Resources

Into the Storm by Josh Turner

10Ten Project

Follow Joshua

Follow 10Ten Project

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