Following our five-part crossover between Watching Two
Detectives and Stop the Killing, we’re
sharing a specially selected episode from the Stop the Killing
archive.
On May 24, 2022, a gunman entered Robb Elementary School
in Uvalde, Texas, killing 19 children and two teachers
and injuring 17 others.
This episode was recorded just two days after the Uvalde school
shooting, while information was still emerging and before the
full, deeply troubling picture of the police response became
known.
Sarah Ferris is joined by Katherine Schweit,
former head of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program, to examine what
was understood in those first 48 hours.
They discuss the gunman’s movements before the attack, his
social-media activity, warning behaviours, access to firearms,
the early questions surrounding school security and the initial
reports of a lengthy delay before officers entered the classroom.
Katherine also challenges some of the misinformation and
conspiracy theories that appeared almost immediately after the
shooting and explains how to identify reliable information during
a rapidly unfolding investigation.
The conversation explores why blaming mass shootings solely on
mental illness is both misleading and unsupported by research,
the difference between mental illness and urgent emotional
distress, and the importance of recognising concerning behaviour
before violence occurs.
Because this episode captures the immediate aftermath, some early
information discussed was later corrected or clarified. As
official investigations progressed, Stop the
Killing returned to Uvalde several times to examine the
police response, command failures, active-shooter protocols and
the legal questions surrounding accountability.
Uvalde, Texas — Robb Elementary School
MassacreThe original episode recorded immediately after
the
shooting:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000564101644
Bonus 4: Uvalde UpdateKatherine examines the
emerging timeline, the delay in confronting the shooter and the
question of who was in
command:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000567936043
The Uvalde Shooting — A Comprehensive AnalysisA
detailed reconstruction based on the US Department of Justice
Critical Incident Review, including the 77-minute delay and
systemic failures in leadership, communication and
command:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000746309846
Uvalde Trial Verdict: What the Decision Really
MeansKatherine explains the legal outcome, what the
verdict established and why criminal, civil and command
accountability are not the
same:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000746304659
This episode is being shared on the Watching Two
Detectives feed to give listeners a taste of the more
than 200 episodes available from Stop the
Killing.
Please follow Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts
for more expert-led conversations about mass shootings,
active-shooter response, prevention, survival and the human
impact left behind.
Next week on Watching Two Detectives, we’ll share a powerful
conversation with Frank DeAngelis, former
principal of Columbine High School, about April 20, 1999, the
attack’s aftermath and the psychological scars carried by the
Columbine community decades later.
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