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Karen Konkoly is a dream scientist who led the first study to
hold a real-time, two-way conversation with a person inside a
dream, putting maths problems to sleepers in REM and getting
answers back through their eye movements. She is a Marie Curie
Postdoctoral Fellow in the Cambridge Consciousness and Cognition
Laboratory, completed her PhD in the Paller Cognitive
Neuroscience Laboratory at Northwestern University, and has spent
her career building tools to engineer dreams — from targeted
lucidity reactivation for narcolepsy nightmares to planting
unsolved problems into REM sleep. She has also asked a dream
character to swap bodies with her, and woken up inside it. This
is the strangest conversation we have had on the channel.

Expect to learn how scientists prove someone is awake inside a
dream, why you still cannot fly in your own dream even when you
know it is a dream, what happened when Karen swapped bodies with
a dream character, whether time really slows down while you
sleep, why practising darts in a lucid dream works about as well
as practising awake, what galantamine and acetylcholine actually
do to REM sleep, the exact protocol for having your first lucid
dream, why Karen no longer believes lucidity is the key to
consciousness, and much more…

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GUEST LINKS

Personal Website: https://www.karenkonkoly.com/

Google Scholar:
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=teYHEFIAAAAJ&hl=en

Cambridge Consciousness & Cognition Lab:
https://www.ccc-lab.org/

Dust Systems (Dream Engineering):
https://www.dust.systems/people/karen-konkoly

X: https://x.com/KarenKonkoly

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00:00 Trailer

0:03:18 What Lucid Dreaming Actually Is

0:05:37 Wake Back To Bed: The 4am Method

0:06:40 Why You Still Can't Fly In Your Own Dream

0:09:20 How You Prove Someone Is Lucid In A Dream

0:11:53 Are The Sleep Stages Even Real?

0:15:28 When A Dream Dissolves But You Don't Wake Up

0:19:19 The Reality Check You Can Do Tonight

0:21:00 Does Time Run Slower Inside A Dream?

0:24:45 Trying And Failing To Become Her Dog

0:26:10 Swapping Bodies With A Dream Character

0:27:51 Is Lucidity A Glitch In Consciousness?

0:33:37 Hyperphantasia And Maladaptive Daydreaming

0:37:53 Practising Darts While You're Asleep

0:41:52 When Lucid Dreaming Is A Bad Idea

0:46:09 Why A Giraffe Can't Appear While You're Awake

0:49:54 Galantamine, Acetylcholine And Dream Drugs

0:52:17 The Squat Experiment

0:58:38 The Full Protocol, Step By Step

1:04:55 What This Teaches Us About Consciousness

1:09:15 Who Are Your Dream Characters?

1:12:55 "You're Not You"

1:14:41 Hypnosis, David Spiegel And Lucid Dreaming

1:18:20 What She's Working On Next

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