Dr. Fei-Fei Li (@drfeifei) is the inaugural
Sequoia Professor in the Computer Science Department at Stanford
University, a founding co-director of Stanford’s Human-Centered
AI Institute, and the co-founder and CEO of World
Labs, a generative AI company focusing on Spatial
Intelligence. She is the author of The Worlds I See:
Curiosity, Exploration, and Discovery at the Dawn of AI,
her memoir and one of Barack Obama’s recommended books on AI and
a Financial Times best book of 2023.
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TIMESTAMPS
[00:00:00] Start.
[00:01:22] Why it’s so remarkable this is our first time
meeting.
[00:03:21] From a childhood in Chengdu to New Jersey
[00:04:51] Being raised by the opposite of tiger parenting.
[00:07:53] Why Dr. Li’s brave parents left everything behind.
[00:11:17] Bob Sabella: The math teacher who sacrificed lunch
hours for an immigrant kid.
[00:19:37] Seven years running a dry cleaning shop through
Princeton.
[00:20:50] How ImageNet birthed modern AI.
[00:23:21] From fighter jets to physics to the audacious
question: What is intelligence?
[00:27:24] The epiphany everyone missed: Big data as the
hidden hypothesis.
[00:28:49] Against the single-genius myth: Science as
non-linear lineage.
[00:32:18] Amazon Mechanical Turk: When desperation breeds
innovation.
[00:39:03] Quality control puzzles: How do you stop people
from seeing pandas everywhere?
[00:41:36] The “Godmother of AI” on what everyone’s missing:
People.
[00:42:31] Civilizational technology: AI’s fingerprints on
GDP, culture, and Japanese taxi screens.
[00:47:45] Pragmatic optimist: Why neither utopians nor
doomsayers have it right.
[00:51:30] Why World Labs: Spatial intelligence as the next
frontier beyond language.
[00:53:17] Packing sandwiches and painting bedrooms: Breaking
down spatial reasoning.
[00:55:16] Medieval French towns on a budget: How World Labs
serves high school theater.
[00:59:08] Flight simulators for robots and strawberry field
therapy for OCD.
[01:01:42] The scientists who don’t make headlines: Spelke,
Gopnik, Brooks, and the cognitive giants.
[01:03:16] What’s underappreciated: Spatial intelligence, AI
in education, and the messy middle of labor.
[01:06:21] Hiring at World Labs: Why tool embrace matters
more than degrees.
[01:08:50] Rethinking evaluation: Show students AI’s B-minus,
then challenge them to beat it.
[01:11:24] Dr. Li’s Billboard.
[01:13:13] The fortuitous naming of Fei-Fei.
[01:14:46] Parting thoughts.
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