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#849: Dr. Michael Levin — Reprogramming Bioelectricity, Updating "Software" for Anti-Aging, Treating Cancer Without Drugs, Cognition of Cells, and Much More

#849: Dr. Michael Levin — Reprogramming Bioelectricity, Updating "Software" for Anti-Aging, Treating Cancer Without Drugs, Cognition of Cells, and Much More

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Dr. Michael Levin (@drmichaellevin) is the
Vannevar Bush Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts
University and director of the Allen Discovery Center. He is
primarily interested in how intelligence self-organizes in a
diverse range of natural, engineered, and hybrid embodiments.
Applied to the collective intelligence of cell groups undergoing
morphogenesis, these ideas have allowed the Levin Lab to develop
new applications in birth defects, organ regeneration, and cancer
suppression.


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TIMESTAMPS:


[00:00:00] Start

[00:03:18] The Body Electric: A Vancouver bookstore
discovery that launched a career.

[00:04:19] Bioelectricity 101: Your brain uses it to think;
your body used it before you had a brain.

[00:06:05] The lesson learned by scrambled tadpole faces that
rearrange themselves.

[00:08:51] Software vs. hardware: The genome is your factory
settings, not your destiny.

[00:11:43] Two-headed flatworms: Rewriting biological memory
without touching DNA.

[00:16:20] Seeing memories: Voltage-sensitive dyes reveal the
body’s hidden blueprints.

[00:20:12] Three killer apps for humans: Birth defects,
regeneration, and cancer.

[00:24:27] Cancer as identity crisis: Cells forgetting
they’re part of a team.

[00:25:40] The boredom theory of aging: Goal-seeking systems
with nothing left to do.

[00:30:09] Planaria’s immortality hack: Rip yourself in half
every two weeks.

[00:31:27] Manhattan Project for aging: Crack cellular
cognition, everything else falls into place.

[00:33:47] Giving cells new goals: Convince a gut to become
an eye.

[00:37:42] Must mammalian mortality be mandatory?

[00:40:25] Cross-pollination: Why biologists would benefit
from programming courses.

[00:47:15] Does acupuncture actually do anything?

[00:50:57] Placebo as feature, not bug: Words and drugs share
the same mechanism.

[00:55:06] The frame problem: Why robots explode and rats
intuit what matters.

[00:59:41] Binary thinking is a trap: “Is it intelligent?” is
the wrong question.

[01:07:46] Minimal brain, normal IQ: Clinical cases that
break neuroscience.

[01:08:45] Super panpsychism: Your liver might have opinions.

[01:13:48] The Platonic space: Bodies as thin clients for
patterns from elsewhere.

[01:15:24] Keep asking “why” and you end up in the math
department.

[01:23:07] Polycomputing: Sorting algorithms secretly doing
side quests.

[01:28:24] Power scaling for the future and avoiding red
herrings for understanding machine minds.

[01:34:06] Sci-fi recommendations.

[01:37:24] Cliff Tabin’s toast and Dan Dennett’s steel
manning.

[01:41:21] Parting thoughts.



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