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Max Levchin (@mlevchin) is a serial entrepreneur
and investor in 100+ startups. He's the founder and CEO of
Affirm, the payment network
powering consumer purchases and merchant growth. An original
PayPal co-founder, Max served as CTO until its 2002 acquisition
by eBay.

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Timestamps:

[00:00:00] Start.

[00:02:50] The Ronin line that rewired how Max makes every
decision.

[00:06:09] Paprika-style brain-computer interfaces.

[00:09:09] PayPal's founders lived inside a Neal Stephenson
novel.

[00:19:21] Transformation via Neuromancer and Snow Crash.

[00:23:40] The book that found Max his wife.

[00:29:24] The real secret to a great marriage.

[00:38:29] What's worth tracking, and what's not.

[00:44:13] A scrawny kid, a clarinet, and a Kyiv velodrome.

[00:46:55] What going all-out on a bike actually gives you.

[00:51:02] The mantra by which Max rides.

[00:53:02] A Soviet kid's fear of socialism.

[01:02:48] Making a profit without destroying society.

[01:04:31] What is Affirm, and why did every banker say it
would fail?

[01:20:18] Why the best mathematicians eschew the lending
industry.

[01:23:50] Does agentic commerce break Affirm, or supercharge
it?

[01:28:01] A PhD-level financial advisor in everyone's
pocket.

[01:29:58] How close are we to buying anything through one AI
chat?

[01:36:32] Improving your coffee: cheap, intermediate, and
Bugatti options.

[01:44:33] The books every first-time founder should actually
read.

[01:48:08] Claude Shannon, Ed Thorp, and the joy of playful
genius.

[01:51:00] Why physical books still beat every digital
reading experience.

[01:51:44] Parting thoughts.

*

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