Late Autism Diagnosis in Leadership: Why Nature Helps Neurodivergent Brains

Executive Director at the RSPB, Emma Marsh, joins Ben for a
conversation that connects leadership, late autism diagnosis, and
the often-overlooked role of nature in how we regulate and
function.


Diagnosed autistic in 2023, Emma reflects on what it means to
navigate senior leadership as an autistic woman, the decision to
disclose at work after years of masking, and how that moment
reshaped both her identity and the way she leads.


Ben and Emma dive into the power of nature and how fundamental it
is for neurodivergent brains. From birdsong and the dawn chorus
to simple ways of reconnecting with the natural world, Emma
explains why nature can feel like a reset for the nervous system
in ways modern environments often can't.


They also explore why so many workplaces still unintentionally
exclude neurodivergent people - and what it looks like to move
beyond awareness into systems that actually support people and
their brains.


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Host: Ben Branson


Production Manager: Phoebe De Leiburné


Video Editor: James Scriven


Social Media Manager: Charlie Young


Music: Jackson Greenberg


Head of Marketing: Kristen Fuller





The Hidden 20% is a charity founded by AuDHD entrepreneur, Ben
Branson.


Our mission is simple: To change how the world sees
neurodivergence.


No more stigma. No more shame. No more silence.


1 in 5 people are neurodivergent. That’s 1.6 billion of us - yet
too many are still excluded, misunderstood, or left without
support.


To break the cycle, we amplify voices, challenge myths, and keep
showing up. Spotlighting stories, stats and hard truths. Smashing
stereotypes through honest voices, creative campaigns and
research that can’t be ignored.Every month, over 50,000 people
turn to The Hidden 20% to feel safe, seen and to learn about
brilliant brains.


With your support, we can reach further, grow louder, and keep
fighting for the 1 in 5 who deserve more.


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