In this second part of the conversation, Ben is joined again by
Cathy Wassell - CEO of Autistic Girls Network, founder of The
Haven online school, and author.
The focus shifts to solutions: changing education, understanding
the hidden side of emotions, and tackling the mental health risks
autistic girls face. Cathy brings clarity and compassion to
topics like Alexithymia, Interoception, and the realities of
school life.
She also answers listener questions on EHCPs, burnout, school
refusal, and diagnosis, before closing with her vision for a
fairer future rooted in authenticity and the joy of autistic
brains.
CW: This episode contains references to mental health and
suicide.
NB: All information was relevant at the time of recording.
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