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In part two of Ben’s conversation with Dr Luke Beardon, they move
from language and identity into the systems shaping autistic
lives - classrooms, healthcare, and even the criminal justice
system. 

With over 30 years’ experience in autism education, Luke breaks
down why inclusivity isn’t a “nice extra” but the foundation of
genuine support, and why a one-size-fits-all approach
consistently fails autistic people.

Luke shares his top three tips for supporting neurodivergent
children in school, explores how the UK’s autism training
compares globally, and offers a candid look at how medical and
justice systems misunderstand autistic communication and
behaviour.

This episode reframes what meaningful inclusion really looks
like. If you’ve ever felt misunderstood, misinterpreted, or
pushed to fit into systems that don’t fit you or your brain, this
conversation will help you make sense of it and remind you that
the problem was never you.

Join us at hidden20.org/donate.

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Host: Ben Branson

Production Manager: Phoebe De Leiburné

Video Editor: James Scriven

Social Media Manager: Charlie Young

Music: Jackson Greenberg

Head of Marketing: Kristen Fuller

00:00 Introduction

1:00 How Dr Luke Beardon Approaches Autism & Education: Why
Inclusivity Matters

8:43 Understanding Life Through the Autistic Lens VS “One Size
Fits All” Support

10:00 Dr Luke’s Top 3 Tips for Supporting Neurodivergent Children
in School

17:42 Neurodiversity History: Educating the Education System

19:55 Autism Training in the UK: What Medical Professionals Are
(Not) Taught

27:57 How the UK’s Autism Understanding Compares to Other
Countries

29:13 Autism & the Criminal Justice System: What Needs to
Change

36:52 The One Belief Luke Would Change About Autism in Society

37:24 Luke’s Green Dot Badge

The Hidden 20% is a charity founded by ADHD & autistic
entrepreneur Ben Branson.

Our mission is simple: To change how the world sees
neurodivergence.

No more stigma. No more shame. No more silence.

1 in 5 people are neurodivergent. That’s 1.6 billion of us - yet
too many are still excluded, misunderstood, or left without
support.

To break the cycle, we amplify voices, challenge myths, and keep
showing up. Spotlighting stories, stats and hard truths. Smashing
stereotypes through honest voices, creative campaigns and
research that can’t be ignored.Every month, over 50,000 people
turn to The Hidden 20% to feel safe, seen and to learn about
brilliant brains.

With your support, we can reach further, grow louder, and keep
fighting for the 1 in 5 who deserve more.

Join us at hidden20.org/donate.

Become a monthly donor.

Be part of our community where great minds think differently.

Brought to you by charity The Hidden 20% #1203348

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