Leadership under pressure is no joke. Pastors Leonce Crump and
Joby Martin open up about the weight of responsibility—when
betrayal, exhaustion, and doubt threaten to take you out. Leonce
shares about seasons of heartbreak that nearly broke him, and
Joby talks about burnout, even in a thriving ministry. This isn’t
just about pushing through—it’s about leaning into Jesus when
you’re running on empty.
What keeps you in the fight? Joby almost walked away from
ministry, ready to sell caskets instead—until his wife nudged him
to give it one more shot. Matt shares about hitting a wall,
realizing he was leading from fumes instead of fresh conviction.
And Leonce? He found renewal not just in faith, but in
reconnecting with the outdoors and rediscovering the things that
replenish his soul.
How do you stay grounded in public life? These guys talk about
balancing leadership with raising kids, protecting their families
from unfair expectations, and keeping their faith real. If you’re
feeling worn out or wondering how to keep going, this
conversation is for you.
TOPICS DISCUSSED
Pastoral Leaders Discuss Resilience and Overcoming
Leaders Embrace Growth and Restoration
Navigating Public Life and Family Pressure
Balancing Ministry and Family Life
Ministry Shift
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