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When Caring Becomes Counterculture

When Caring Becomes Counterculture

The David Frum Show vor 8 Monaten

Tim Miller on what he saw in Minnesota, why “Resist libs” turn off younger generations, and whether Never Trump has veered too far to the left. Plus: Reacting to Trump’s tariff defeat and rethinking the tradition of the State of the Union.

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On this week’s episode of “The David Frum Show,” Atlantic staff
writer David Frum opens with his take on President Trump’s reaction
to a recent Supreme Court defeat on tariffs, arguing that the real
issue is not just economics but the president’s drive for unchecked
power. Then David is joined by Tim Miller of “The Bulwark” to
unpack Tim’s recent trip to Minneapolis and what he saw on the
ground amid ongoing ICE enforcement operations in the Twin Cities.
They explore why younger Americans find “Resist libs” cringe and
how that cynicism has helped fuel Trump’s politics. David and Tim
also debate whether Never Trump conservatives are losing the core
values that once defined them and whether that evolution is
necessary in order to actually take on Trump. Finally, David
revisits the history and meaning of the State of the Union address,
questioning whether this long-standing ritual needs rethinking in
the Trump era. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you
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