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Paul Noonan & Brian Crosby: From Bell X1 to Pilgrims, Music Therapy & Breathwork

Paul Noonan & Brian Crosby: From Bell X1 to Pilgrims, Music Therapy & Breathwork

The Tools at Hand with Harrison Gardner vor 1 Monat

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Paul Noonan and Brian Crosby have been making music together, in
one form or another, for decades.

From Juniper and Bell X1, through 16 years of separate creative
journeys, they eventually found their way back into a room
together. What started with Brian’s solo piano record Imbrium and
a voice note from Paul during COVID became Pilgrims — a new
project built from everything they had learned and experienced in
the years apart.

In this conversation, we talk about what it means to return to a
creative partnership after so much time, the vulnerability of
making something new with someone you have a long history with,
and how Pilgrims grew from remote recordings into a live project.

We also get into the very different paths they took along the
way. Brian talks about leaving Bell X1, moving to Berlin,
composing for film, building recording studios from scratch, and
training in holotropic breathwork. Paul talks about his work as a
music therapist, working with people with dementia, brain
injuries and children, and what music can make possible in those
settings.

And underneath all of it is a bigger question about creativity:
what happens when we stop trying to be perfect, become willing to
be vulnerable, and allow other people to change what we're
making?

This is a conversation about music, collaboration, fear,
connection, and finding your way back to making things.

Support the podcast on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/cw/HarrisonGardner

Connect with Harrison:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_harrisongardner

Website: https://www.harrisongardner.net/

Books: https://www.harrisongardner.net/bookstore-1

Pre-order my new book HEAT-SHELTER-WATER-FOOD

https://www.harrisongardner.net/heat-shelter-water-food

Explore Pilgrims and their music:

https://www.pilgrims.music/

Chapters

00:00 – Teaser

00:51 – Intro: Creating Something People Are Ready to
Receive

03:50 – From Bell X1 to Pilgrims

05:42 – The Voice Note That Sparked Pilgrims

07:31 – Finding a New Musical Voice

08:17 – Two Very Different Journeys

09:17 – Why Brian Left Bell X1

16:40 – Building a Creative Scene in Berlin

19:28 – What Is Holotropic Breathwork?

23:45 – Fear, Self-Doubt & Creativity

30:55 – Paul Noonan on Music Therapy

32:00 – Music & Brain Injury

32:45 – Creating a Safe Space

34:20 – From Performer to Facilitator

40:55 – Building the Wicklow Studio

45:00 – Why Small Venues Matter

52:34 – What's Next for Pilgrims?

55:37 – Outro

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