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Aisha Musa, former leader: Can Sudan rebuild?

Aisha Musa, former leader: Can Sudan rebuild?

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Former Sudanese leader Aisha Musa on war, refugees and the collapse of democracy.

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“I feel numb. It feels unreal to me, having been in Sudan all my
life. I have never imagined that it will turn into a war field,
it looks like a nightmare. At first that it is just days or
months or even a year, but it went on and it kept escalating.
Even our homes are no longer habitable. One of my sons went back
to have a look and he said you wouldn't even find a spoon for
your tea.” James Copnall speaks to Aisha Musa, one of the
civilian figures who helped lead Sudan after the overthrow of
Omar al-Bashir in 2019.

After popular protests led to Bashir’s fall, Sudan’s presidency
was replaced by a Sovereign Council made up of military and
civilian representatives. Aisha Musa was one of only two women
appointed to the body, an unprecedented position of influence for
a woman in Sudan.

But hopes of democratic change collapsed with the outbreak of
civil war in 2023 between Sudan’s army and the paramilitary Rapid
Support Forces.

Aisha reflects on working alongside the generals responsible for
Sudan’s civil war, what it would take to rebuild democracy and
her frustration at UK visa restrictions for Sudanese refugees.

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Presenter: James Copnall Producer: Osman Iqbal Editor: Farhana
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(Image: Aisha Musa Credit: Mahmoud Hjaj/Anadolu Agency via Getty
Images)