In this podcast, I had the rare opportunity to interview three
men in Level 4 maximum security at Kern Valley State Prison.
There was no time to do homework on any of them, so I crossed my
fingers and jumped in. It was incredibly nerve-wracking and,
ultimately, incredibly rewarding and fun. Any expectations I
might have had going in were exceeded.
I owe special thanks to Cat Hoke, all the men who participate in
Defy (the program Cat started), and all the staff and officers at
Kern, including Chief Deputy Warden Goss who made it possible for
me to bring recording equipment. Thank you for the help, sir!
If you're interested in a similar prison visit after listening to
this episode, Cat now has five more trips lined up. Simply email
admin@cathoke.com for more details. If this episode moves you in
any way, make sure to check out Defy and other groups doing this
work and making an impact, like the Anti-Recidivism Coalition
(ARC).
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