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#494: Michael Phelps and Grant Hackett — Two Legends on Competing, Overcoming Adversity, Must-Read Books, and Much More

#494: Michael Phelps and Grant Hackett — Two Legends on Competing, Overcoming Adversity, Must-Read Books, and Much More

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Michael Phelps and Grant Hackett — Two Legends on
Competing, Overcoming Adversity, Must-Read Books, and Much More |
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Michael Phelps (@michaelphelps) is widely
regarded as one of the greatest athletes of all time. He captured
28 medals, including a record-setting 23 gold medals, and set 39
world records over the course of his career. Michael utilized his
performance bonus for winning eight gold medals in 2008 to
establish the Michael Phelps Foundation, which promotes water
safety, healthy living (physical and mental), and the pursuit of
dreams. The Foundation’s signature program — IM — is a
learn-to-swim, healthy living, and goal-setting curriculum based
on the principles and tools Michael utilized in his swimming
career and is available through the Boys and Girls Clubs of
America and Special Olympics International. His advocacy for
water safety and mental health has earned the recognition of the
Boys and Girls Clubs of America (Champion of Youth), American
Image Awards (Humanitarian Award), Substance Abuse and Mental
Health Services Administration (Special Recognition Award), The
Ruderman Family Foundation (Morton E. Ruderman Award in
Inclusion), and PR Week (Health Influencer 50 and 2020
Communicator of the Year), among others.


Michael served as an executive producer and featured talent in
the HBO documentary The Weight of Gold , which
explores the mental health challenges Olympic athletes often
face. In addition, he has published two autobiographies, No
Limits: The Will to Succeed and Beneath the Surface, that were
New York Times and USA Today bestsellers, and one children’s
book, How to Train with a T-Rex and Win Eight Gold Medals.


Grant Hackett (@grant__hackett) represented and
captained Australia in swimming at the Olympic Games. He
collected a total of 58 medals over the course of his swimming
career — with 26 gold at Olympic, Commonwealth, and World
Championships levels — along with 16 world records. He remained
unbeaten for 11 years in his pet event, the 1500m freestyle.
Grant also received prestigious honors such as the Order of
Australia, Centenary Medal, and Australian Sports Medal. Grant is
a member of the Sports Australia Hall of Fame and International
Swimming Hall of Fame.


His qualifications include an executive master's of business
administration with first-class honors, a diploma of business
law, and a diploma of financial services. Grant is the CEO of
Generation Life, an Australia-based investment firm managing more
than $1.3 billion.


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