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Trump vs. the Pope

Trump vs. the Pope

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This week, an unusual disagreement broke out between the
president of the United States and Pope Leo XIV.

The New York Times Rome bureau chief, Motoko Rich, explains why
President Trump cares so much about what the pope thinks, and why
it matters that they are so deeply at odds.

Guest: Motoko Rich, the Rome
bureau chief leading coverage of Italy, the Vatican and Greece
for The New York Times.

Background reading:

President Trump lashed out on Sunday night at Pope Leo XIV,
who responded hours later by saying he would continue to oppose
war.

The Times’s Rome bureau chief is still getting a feel for a
pontiff who is willing to challenge President Trump and use his
sense of humor.

Photo: Alberto Pizzoli, Anna Rose Layden for The New York Times

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