168.  The Exit from Democracy. The project shaping our world - QUINN SLOBODIAN

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How markets, law, and technology are reshaping
sovereignty. With Quinn Slobodian.


Where does power really reside today?


If capitalism no longer operates within the boundaries of
nation-states, what happens to democracy? Who governs a world
shaped by tax havens, special economic zones, and private
infrastructures? And what if some of the most influential actors
are no longer trying to win political power, but to escape it
altogether?


In this conversation with historian Quinn Slobodian, we explore
the deeper logic behind neoliberalism, the rise of “exit”
politics, and the growing fragmentation of sovereignty.


A discussion about the shifting relationship between capital and
democracy, and what it means for the future of our political
systems.





Chapters


00:00 - Introduction to the Conversation


02:00 - Understanding Historical Contexts


05:03 - Power Dynamics in Modern Capitalism


08:09 - The Evolution of Capitalism and Political Economy


12:09 - The Role of Neoliberalism


20:59 - The Intersection of Democracy and Capitalism


30:05 - Special Economic Zones and Global Capitalism


36:32 - Capitalist Utopias and Economic Zones


39:08 - The Rise of Neoliberalism in the 1970s


44:03 - International Economic Law and Capitalist Rights


50:40 - The European Union: A Competing Vision


53:00 - Debt as Political Discipline


01:01:03 - Trumpism: A New Political Experiment


01:11:53 - Neoliberalism and Geoeconomics


01:17:07 - Understanding Empire and Power Dynamics


01:23:36 - Muskism: A New Economic Paradigm?


01:27:31 - Ecological Stress and Energy Limits


01:35:37 - The Future of Nation-States and Democracy


Recorded on January 12, 2026


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