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  4. Why Success Feels Empty at the Top - Scott DeRue
Scott DeRue has climbed Mount Everest, completed the Seven Summits,
led global businesses through crisis and now serves as CEO of
Ironman. In this episode of Going Mental, Scott shares the
leadership lessons he learned on the world's highest mountain, why
reaching the summit is often the easy part and how high performers
navigate uncertainty, risk, and pressure. We dive into Scott's
journey from a small town in North Carolina to becoming a
professor, business leader, Everest climber and ultimately the CEO
of Ironman. Along the way, we explore purpose, resilience,
decision-making under extreme conditions and why the most
meaningful growth happens outside your comfort zone. Scott also
reflects on what it means to "go mental"— not as losing control,
but as finding clarity and focus when everything around you feels
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