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EXCLUSIVE: Israel is 'Gaslighting' Us, Says 'Andor' Star After Trip to Occupied West Bank

EXCLUSIVE: Israel is 'Gaslighting' Us, Says 'Andor' Star After Trip to Occupied West Bank

We're Not Kidding with Mehdi & Friends vor 11 Monaten

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SPOILER ALERT: This episode includes plot details for the TV
series 'Andor'.

On this week's 'We're Not Kidding', Mehdi once again gets to do
his two favorite things: have a substantive conversation about
politics and fanboy on nerd culture. That's because this week's
guest is award-winning Irish actor Denise Gough, who came to
prominence on the 'Star Wars' TV series 'Andor' playing an
intelligence officer in service of the fascistic Empire. But in
real life Denise's politics are deeply anti-imperial as an
outspoken advocate for Palestine and the people of Gaza.

Mehdi speaks with Denise about her breakout role on 'Andor'
playing "one of the most compelling fascists [he's] ever
seen on screen," and unpack the parallels between
'Andor' and the rise of fascism across the West right now. But
unlike 'Star Wars', the "good guys" in many historical conflicts
are often vilified by those in power. "It's very
impressive when the good guys are doing it," Mehdi says.
" But who defines who the good guys and the bad guys
are?"

The two then discuss Denise's advocacy work and the historical
connection between Ireland and Palestine. "[Ireland]
lived under occupation for hundreds of years," Denise
says. She goes on to recount her recent trip to the occupied West
Bank and witnessing Israel's apartheid firsthand. "I've
seen things that are undeniable," a visibly emotional
Denise says. From the military checkpoints and fences in Hebron,
to Palestinian homes barred in steel to protect against settler
attacks, to handmade jewelry carved from Israeli military tear
gas canisters. "There isn't a person in the world that
would be able to convince me what is happening there is a
democracy."

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CREDITS:

Hosted by: Mehdi Hasan

Guest Host: Denise Gough

Executive Producer: Kiran Alvi

Senior Producer and Editor: Frank Cappello

Music: Andy Clausen

Design: Alicia Tatone

Mix Engineer: Valentino Rivera

Title Animation: Ehsaan Mesghali

Special thanks: Khaleel Rahman