Our U.S. Biotech and Biopharma analysts Sean Laaman and Terence
Flynn discuss the latest developments that could be positioning
the healthcare sector for strong outperformance.
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Sean Laaman: Welcome to Thoughts on the
Market. I'm Sean Laaman, Morgan Stanley's U.S. Small and Mid-Cap
Biotech Analyst.
Terence Flynn: And I'm Terence Flynn,
Morgan Stanley's U.S. Biopharma Analyst.
Sean Laaman: Today, we'll discuss how a
rally in the healthcare sector is being driven by more favorable
macro conditions.
It's Tuesday, October 28th at 10am in New York.
So, Terence, healthcare has lagged the broader market
year-to-date, and valuations have been near historical lows. But
recent weeks show strengthening performance. Policy headwinds
have been front and center.
What's changed in the regulatory environment and how is the
biopharma sector adapting to these pricing and tariff
dynamics?
Terence Flynn: Sean, as you know, with many
other sectors, tariffs were initially a focus earlier this year.
But a number of companies in our space have subsequently
announced significant U.S. manufacturing investments to reshore
supply chains. And hence, the market's less focused on tariffs in
our space right now.
But the other policy dynamic and focus is what's called Most
Favored Nation or MFN drug pricing. Now, this is where the
President's been focused on aligning U.S. drug prices with those
in other developed countries. And recently we've seen several
companies announce agreements with the administration along these
lines, which importantly has provided investors with more
visibility here. And we're watching to see if additional
agreements get announced.
Sean Laaman: Got it. Another hurdle for
Large-cap biopharma is a looming expiration of patents with
[$]177 billion exposed by 2030. How is this shaping M&A
trends and strategic priorities?
Terence Flynn: For sure. I mean, as you
know, Sean, patent expiry is our normal part of the life cycle of
drug development. Every company goes through this at some point,
but this does put the focus on company's internal pipelines to
continue to progress while also being able to access external
innovation via M&A. Recently we have started to see a pickup
in deal activity, which could bode well for performance in
SMID-cap biotech.
Sean Laaman: At the same time, you believe
relative valuations look compelling for Large-cap biopharma.
Where are valuations versus where they've been historically?
What's driving this and how should investors think about
positioning?
Terence Flynn: Absolutely. Look, on a price
to earnings multiple, the sector's trading at about a 30 percent
discount to the S&P 500 right now. Now that's in line with
prior periods of policy uncertainty. But as policy visibility
improves, we expect the focus will shift back to fundamentals.
Now, positioning to me still feels light here, given some of the
patent cliff dynamics we just discussed.
Now, Sean, with the Fed moving toward rate cuts, how do you see
this impacting your sector on the biotech side?
Sean Laaman: Well, Terence, particularly in
my space, which is Small- and Mid-cap biotech companies, they're
typically capital consumers are not capital producers. They're
particularly sensitive to the current rate environment.
Therefore, they're sensitive to spending on pipeline. They're
sensitive to M&A. So, as rates come down, we expect more
spending on pipeline and more M&A activity, which is
generally positive for the sector. Looking forward, biotech
sector is generally the best performing sector on a
six-to-12-month timeframe post the first rate cut.
Terence Flynn: Great. You've also talked
about this SMID to Big thesis on the biotech side. Can you
explain what's driving that?
Sean Laaman: Sure Terence. There’s three
pieces to the SMID to Big thematic. So, we in SMID-cap biotech,
we cover 80 to 90 companies. About a third of those are newly,
kind of profitable companies. Those companies are turning from
being capital consumers to capital producers. We see about $15
billion of cash on balance sheets for 2025, going to north of 130
billion by 2030. That's the first piece.
The second piece is due to regulatory uncertainty at the USFDA.
We're seeing more attractive valuations amongst clinical stage
names. That's the second piece. And third piece relates to your
coverage, Terence. I refer back to that [$]177 billion of LOE.
So, we expect generally that M&A activity will be quite high
amongst our sector.
Terence Flynn: And let's not forget about
AI, which has implications across the healthcare space. How much
is this changing the dynamic in biotech, Sean?
Sean Laaman: It is changing, but we're
really at the beginning. I think there's three things to think
about. The first one is faster trial recruitment. The second one
is faster regulatory submissions. And the third one, which is the
most interesting, but we're really at the beginning of, is faster
time to appropriately targeted molecules.
Terence Flynn: Great. And maybe lastly,
what are the key risks and catalysts for SMID-cap biotech in the
current environment?
Sean Laaman: As always, we're focused on
pipeline failures in terms of risk. Secondly, in terms of risk,
we're looking at regulatory risk at the FDA. And thirdly, we're
looking at the rise in China biotech and the competitive dynamic
there.
Whether you're watching large cap biopharma, M&A moves, or
the rise of cash-rich, SMID-cap biotechs, the healthcare sector
setup is unlike anything we've seen in years.
Terence, thanks for speaking with me.
Terence Flynn: Always a pleasure to be on
the show. Thanks for having me, Sean.
Sean Laaman: And thanks for listening. If
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