️ With Roger Spitz – Foresight Strategist,
Techistentialist & President of the Disruptive Futures
Institute
Summary
In this episode of the in-between trust podcast, Eva
Simone Lihotzky speaks with Roger Spitz, a global foresight
strategist and founder of the Disruptive Futures Institute.
Together, they explore the deep relationship between trust,
agency, and technology, and why decision-making in complex
systems requires more than control.
Roger introduces the concept of techistentialism - a
lens through which to understand how humans and algorithms now
share the terrain of choice, risk, and consequence. This
conversation invites us to rethink the foundations of leadership,
the illusion of predictability, and the necessity of awareness,
resilience, and anticipatory thinking in an era shaped by
disruption.
Takeaways
Trust is a fundamental need, not a luxury
Agency is the basis for ethical and effective decisions
Technology and human decision-making are inseparable
Awareness of complexity changes how we lead and respond
Anticipatory thinking is essential for navigating uncertainty
Control is incompatible with complex systems
Antifragility allows organizations to benefit from shocks
Agility enables more resilient leadership and communication
AI can enhance trust — if used in the right contexts
Delegating decisions to machines can erode human capacity
️ Sound Bites
"Control is incompatible with complex systems."
"Antifragility means benefiting from shocks."
"Foresight is a form of intelligence."
️ Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Trust and Agency
02:17 The Role of Trust in Decision Making
04:41 Understanding Technology and Trust
08:03 Incorporating Techistentialism in Business
11:24 Awareness, Agency, and Anticipation
17:14 Navigating Control in Complex Systems
23:00 Agility in Communication and Leadership
28:56 The Impact of Technology on Systems
33:49 AI’s Role in Strengthening Trust
39:42 In-Between Moments and Conclusion
Keywords
trust, agency, technology, decision making, tech essentialism,
complexity, AI, leadership, communication, resilience
Links
in-between trust on Instagram: @inbetween_trust
More about the disruptive futures institute:
https://www.disruptivefutures.org/
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