️ with Gifty Enright - author, speaker and expert on women's
leadership
Summary
In this episode of The In-Between Trust Podcast, Eva Simone
Lihotzky sits down with Gifty Enright - author, speaker, and
women’s leadership expert - to unpack a tension many of us feel
but rarely articulate:
In a hyper-visible world, we are more “searched” than ever, and
yet we feel less seen.
Gifty exposes the invisible emotional
infrastructure that holds workplaces together - the labor of
noticing, soothing, anticipating, and absorbing complexity - work
disproportionately done by women and almost never acknowledged as
expertise.
Together, Eva and Gifty explore why trust is less about
performance and more about relational
safety, how leaders can cultivate embodied awareness in
an age of tech, and why empathy can’t be automated — even by the
most advanced AI.
The conversation moves from gendered trust patterns to the
redesign of leadership for the AI era, offering a grounded
reminder: Your body knows the truth long before your mind catches
up. If you lead teams, build tech, or are navigating emotional
load at work, this episode will challenge how you think about
trust, resilience, and the limits of technology.
Takeaways
Trust is shifting from task-based
to relational — people follow
leaders who create emotional safety.
Technology blurs boundaries and accelerates burnout unless
paired with embodied leadership.
Emotional labor — often carried by women — is a hidden
operating system of organizations.
AI can pattern-match, but it
cannot feel; empathy remains a human
capability.
Leaders must regulate their internal systems to earn trust
externally.
Women are socialized to earn trust; men are often
socialized to assume it.
Stillness is not a luxury — it’s a leadership technology.
Trust grows in the pause; speed erodes nuance.
Tech should augment humanity, not override it.
Soundbites
“Tech can predict patterns, but it can’t feel your pain.”
“Women aren’t trusted by default — they’re conditioned to
earn it.”
“Stillness is a leadership tool, not a luxury.”
“The pause is where trust breathes.”
Chapters
00:00 — What Trust Really Means in Today’s Workplace
02:06 — Tech Acceleration & the Cost to Human Wellbeing
04:28 — The Hidden Burden: Emotional Labor in Organizations
07:50 — Why AI Can’t Replace Empathy
12:17 — Embodied Intelligence: Leading from the Body, Not Just
the Mind
15:59 — Self-Trust vs. System Trust
18:55 — Gendered Dynamics of Trust and Power
22:02 — Rethinking Leadership for the AI Age
24:07 — Human Evolution, Work, and What Comes Next
Keywords
trust, emotional labor, leadership, AI limits, embodied
intelligence, workplace wellbeing, gender dynamics, empathy,
psychological safety, organizational culture, women in leadership
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