Has Vehicle-to-Grid Reached the Tipping Point? – with Adriana Fricke and Robin Berg

In this episode of The smarter E podcast, we
unpack how bidirectional EV charging is reshaping Europe’s energy
and mobility landscape, from market signals to real-world
deployment at scale.


We begin with a policy perspective, speaking with Adriana
Fricke from Hubject – a company
that is working at the intersection of e-mobility, regulation,
and energy systems.


As Europe pushes toward electrification, regulatory
standardization and cross-industry alignment are emerging as
critical enablers of bidirectional charging. And with hundreds of
billions already invested into the EV ecosystem, the sector is
moving beyond theory to now positioning EVs as the mobile energy
assets that will support grid stability, cut system costs, and
strengthen energy resilience across Europe.


In the second part of the episode, we speak to Robin
Berg, the Founder and CEO of We Drive
Solar, about the shift from concept to practice by
exploring how V2G is being deployed on the ground. We look at the
rapid scale-up of bidirectional EV fleets in the Netherlands and
what they reveal about the future of distributed storage.


Fleet vehicles – stationary for most of their lifetime – are
proving uniquely suited to providing grid flexibility, helping
manage winter demand peaks and absorb excess solar during high
generation periods. As projects scale from pilots to hundreds of
vehicles, they are offering a glimpse of how V2G could become a
core part of future power systems.


These conversations show how V2G is transitioning from
experimentation to commercial rollout – and why standards
and policy clarity will be crucial to shaping how fast it scales.


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