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#482 – Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

#482 – Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Lex Fridman Podcast vor 11 Monaten

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Pavel Durov is the founder and CEO of Telegram.

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EPISODE LINKS:

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OUTLINE:

(00:00) – Introduction

(02:46) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections

(11:29) – Philosophy of freedom

(14:37) – No alcohol

(22:42) – No phone

(28:38) – Discipline

(49:50) – Telegram: Lean philosophy, privacy, and
geopolitics

(1:05:12) – Arrest in France

(1:21:23) – Romanian elections

(1:32:18) – Power and corruption

(1:41:50) – Intense education

(1:53:51) – Nikolai Durov

(1:58:19) – Programming and video games

(2:02:33) – VK origins & engineering

(2:19:46) – Hiring a great team

(2:29:02) – Telegram engineering & design

(2:48:04) – Encryption

(2:53:01) – Open source

(2:57:48) – Edward Snowden

(3:00:20) – Intelligence agencies

(3:01:32) – Iran and Russia government pressure

(3:04:41) – Apple

(3:11:38) – Poisoning

(3:43:53) – Money

(3:52:45) – TON

(4:02:35) – Bitcoin

(4:05:34) – Two chairs dilemma

(4:12:14) – Children

(4:23:24) – Father

(4:27:55) – Quantum immortality

(4:34:27) – Kafka

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